> Tim Woodall :
>> What is Potato? Is that about 3.0, or 3.1?
> Yes. It's 2.2 from 2000.
Wow! Talk about blast from the past!
Potato was my first debian version.
I created a netboot floppy for potato and used it to install debian on
several computers, downloading everything over the net.
On 2025-05-11, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> This thread is a waist of time!
>>
> Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
It's a pretty hip saying.
> Cheers
> Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
>
>
>
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 10:48:55AM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
For a futile attempt at correcting topic drift, I commented about
laptops and their displays. So how many laptops do you have with a 16:10
aspect display and from which decade are they from? I know of exactly
one model from this decade
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 06:29:58AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:55:30PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
This is simple: if you have a 7 year old machine, find someone throwing out
a 4 year old machine, take it, and throw out the 7 year old machine instead.
Refusing to ta
ople who can use them.
>
>
> In years past, I bought used computers and components via craigslist.
> In more recent years, eBay seems to be the best source. When myself or
> people I support want recent hardware with warranties and Windows
> support, Dell Outlet and Dell R
; The issue isn't finding the availability of potentially useful machines
> that get
> > trashed, the issue is that there isn't an efficient market for getting
> those
> > machines to people who can use them.
>
I purchase refurbished equipment regularly. I use https:/
Eben King writes:
> On 5/11/25 08:46, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Stefan Monnier writes:
>> It does seem like the slightly longer 16:10 screens are making a
>> comeback, at least in the Thinkpad T16.
>
> Two of my monitors have that aspect ratio.
Well, why not, let's ramble on about loosely related
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:55:30PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
[...]
> > The embedded cost in older machines has amortised over a longer
> > period.
>
> What are you even talking about?
Longer life: you divvy up the manufacturing (and shipping, and...) over
a longer time.
> > I don't follow yo
onents via craigslist.
In more recent years, eBay seems to be the best source. When myself or
people I support want recent hardware with warranties and Windows
support, Dell Outlet and Dell Refurbished work.
David
Get a life!
On 5/11/2025 12:37 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
[snip]
This thread is a waist of time!
Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Cheers
Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Hi,
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 04:37:08PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
> > This thread is a waist of time!
> >
> Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Some people just like to explore the pant leg less travelled
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 05:58:43PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:02:26AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:55:07PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
> more, but it usually makes sens
On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
[snip]
>
> This thread is a waist of time!
>
Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Cheers
Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 12:15 (UTC-0400):
> On 5/11/25 12:05, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 10:02 (UTC-0400):
>>> On 5/11/25 Anssi Saari wrote:
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
> old T6
On 5/11/25 12:05, Felix Miata wrote:
Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 10:02 (UTC-0400):
On 5/11/25 Anssi Saari wrote:
Stefan Monnier wrote:
FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
batter
Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 10:02 (UTC-0400):
> On 5/11/25 Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
>>> old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
>>> battery life, much lighter, much s
On 5/11/25 08:46, Anssi Saari wrote:
Stefan Monnier writes:
FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
battery life, much lighter, much smaller pixels), it wasn't terribly
faster, and it suffe
On 2025-05-10, Thomas Dineen wrote:
> In love with old hardware?
>
> Have you getting a rescue cat or dog? Get a life!!!
I had two rescue cats, but when they died it hurt so much I don't
want to go through that again.
Stefan Monnier writes:
> FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
> old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
> battery life, much lighter, much smaller pixels), it wasn't terribly
> faster, and it suffered from a shorter screen, so in th
On 2025-05-10, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> installing any even remotely current release of Debian (or any other
>> kind of *nix) on hardware over a decade old probably doesn't have much
>> practical benefit, and is more of an exercise in seeing
>> what's possi
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:44:09AM -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote:
[...]
> This thread is a waist of time!
You seem to like waisting your time. Wait until it
is the wrist's turn...
Cheers
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Thomas Dineen wrote:
> This thread is a waist of time!
Not when it produces delightful misspellings like this one.
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https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Yes I am about to: Household and yard work!
Suggest you go do something useful: For yourself, your family
your home, your community.
This thread is a waist of time!
On 5/10/2025 10:40 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:26:21AM -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote:
[...]
Or maybe
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:26:21AM -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote:
[...]
> Or maybe just maybe Mental Health Counseling?
Grumpy today?
Jeez. Go do some sports.
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In love with old hardware?
Have you getting a rescue cat or dog? Get a life!!!
Or maybe just maybe Mental Health Counseling?
On 5/10/2025 4:30 AM, songbird wrote:
Oliver Schode wrote:
...
My heart goes out to those with a heart for working things, we will
always carry the day if only
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:02:26AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:55:07PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
> > more, but it usually makes sense to keep operating old electronic
> > devices as long as they
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:55:07PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
more, but it usually makes sense to keep operating old electronic
devices as long as they can do their job. That usually means at least
10 years.
No need for any h
regulations;
there's no reason in physics that you shouldn't have a 250Wh
battery. Manufacturers have chosen thinner and lighter designs,
generally.
Efficiency of battery use is partially hardware improvements
(especially screens and SSDs) and partially software. The Linux
kernel folks have done an impressive job in this area.
-dsr-
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wonder.
>
> And don't forget the energy that will be needed to dismantle it!
the timescale of how long too. Fukushima is dragging on and
on and Chernobyl is becoming a mess again and no end for that
one seems to be
Oliver Schode wrote:
...
> My heart goes out to those with a heart for working things, we will
> always carry the day if only because there were strictly less gadgety
> things around in the past, with much fewer still with us, and this is
> strictly always true. Quantity matters, this isn't just a
On 5/9/25 22:55, Stefan Monnier wrote:
the entire argument about keeping antique hardware in operation on
ecological grounds makes no sense except in a hypothetical world where
only two machines exist.
Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
more, but
> What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wonder.
And don't forget the energy that will be needed to dismantle it!
Stefan
> * If a new machine is genuinely more efficient (and we keep being
>told that they are!),
The capacity of laptop batteries has been stable around 50-100Wh for
decades, so the detailed and concrete data about potential improvement
in efficiency is readily available in the form measurement of
> installing any even remotely current release of Debian (or any other
> kind of *nix) on hardware over a decade old probably doesn't have much
> practical benefit, and is more of an exercise in seeing
> what's possible.
Hmm... FWIW, here are the computers I use on a regu
> the entire argument about keeping antique hardware in operation on
> ecological grounds makes no sense except in a hypothetical world where
> only two machines exist.
Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
more, but it usually makes sense to
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:43:45 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
>
> What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wonder.
>
Big power plants are obviously great consumers of power themselves,
some of the greatest probably. More notoriously, they'll usually need
lots of power to power up, nothing
his topic, too (and
> am mulling to have a discussion/talk in our local free software
> group to "celebrate" the end of Windows 10 [1], which is set
> to be a considerable hardware extinction event.
What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wo
x27;m interested in this topic, too (and
am mulling to have a discussion/talk in our local free software
group to "celebrate" the end of Windows 10 [1], which is set
to be a considerable hardware extinction event.
So very useful.
Cheers
[1] https://endof10.org/
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
> While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
> in a lapto
. People do a
lot of things that aren't useful. Like argue in email threads.
Quite right, Mr. Curley. And whether antique hardware is "useless" is
entirely dependent upon what one is doing with it. I would agree that
installing any even remotely current release of Debian (or any
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 10:53:26AM -0700, Thomas Dineen wrote:
> This whole thread is INSANE!!!
What is this with some people wanting to prescribe others what
to do?
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On Thu, 8 May 2025 10:53:26 -0700
Thomas Dineen wrote:
> This whole thread is INSANE!!!
>
> Old computers of this generation are so slow that they would be
> USELESS!
Well, yes. But the original question was whether one could install
Debian on it, not whether it would be useful to do so. People
ed that your antique
hardware would be happier as a DOSbox (i.e., a *physical* DOSbox, not a
WinDoze or Linux box running a DOSBox emulator). I concur. Although such
things are *not* just for running old games; they're equally good for
running stuff like pre-Corel versions of WordPerfect and
monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
>While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
>a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
>in
OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-232, 1x USB 2.0
Regards,
Rafal
erspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was necessary to produce the laptop)
is typically higher than all the electricity that the laptop will
consume during its lifetime.
It does justify getting a 20 year younger used machine...the entire
argument about keeping antiqu
So how much energy has this thread wasted?
On 5/8/2025 9:33 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100,debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
wrote:
Greg wrote:
older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
than something small and more rece
wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
> wrote:
> > Greg wrote:
> > > >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> > > >> than something small and more recent might use.
> > > >
> > > > While that's obviously good, that doesn't
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Greg wrote:
> > >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> > >> than something small and more recent might use.
> > >
> > > While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
Greg wrote:
> >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
> >> than something small and more recent might use.
> >
> > While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> > a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded
> > energy in a
>> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
>> something small and more recent might use.
>
> While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
> a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
> in a laptop (i.e. the energy t
> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity than
> something small and more recent might use.
While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying
a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded energy
in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was nec
Michael Stone wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:12:51PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>NetBSD is a possibility:
>
> Yeah, I'd go with NetBSD as the most useful option. They're the project
> most likely to keep i386 going. FreeBSD is dropping it as are most of
> the linux distros. But honestl
On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:12:51PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
NetBSD is a possibility:
Yeah, I'd go with NetBSD as the most useful option. They're the project
most likely to keep i386 going. FreeBSD is dropping it as are most of
the linux distros. But honestly, as a unix system a $35 ras
TinyCore linux might work, but I know it's not debian.
Kind Regards,
Benjamin
On Wed, 7 May 2025, mick.crane wrote:
Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 11:58:56 +0100
From: mick.crane
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?
Resent-Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 10:59:24
On 2025-05-05 21:01, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-232, 1x USB 2.0
Regards,
Rafal
I
2017-06-17
10 buster 2019-07-06
11 bullseye 2021-08-14
12 bookworm 2023-06-10
but I can't see any of these being useful for the OP.
> The only reason I can think to want to boot an ancient system like
> this is because of some piece of hardware that is unavailable today or
>
On Mon, 5 May 2025 17:46:51 -0400
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 4:39 PM Rafał Lichwała
> wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
> > what "image" should I use?
> >
> > Hardware spec:
&
Rafał Lichwała writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
> what "image" should I use?
>
> Hardware spec:
>
> CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
> RAM: 32MB
> HDD: 6GB
> BIOS year: 1998
> CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS
ut may repeatedly “crash”, depending on your hardware and
use case".
[ My home router+AP has 128MB of RAM (on a 50Mb/s connection) and lack
of memory seems to be the main source of instability. I suspect the
next version of OpenWRT will move to 128MB as the minimum. ]
Stefan
On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:41:05AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon May 5, 2025 at 11:04 PM BST, Bret Busby wrote:
> > What is Potato? Is that about 3.0, or 3.1?
>
> It was my first Debian version: release in August 2000.
> >
> > Would it still be supported with security patches?
>
> No,
On Mon May 5, 2025 at 11:04 PM BST, Bret Busby wrote:
What is Potato? Is that about 3.0, or 3.1?
It was my first Debian version: release in August 2000.
Would it still be supported with security patches?
No, security supported stopped for Potato 22 years ago.
If not, would it not be unsaf
On Tue, 6 May 2025, Bret Busby wrote:
On 6/5/25 05:56, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2025, Rafa? Lichwa?a wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so, what
"image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
On Mon 05 May 2025 at 22:01:18 (+0200), Rafał Lichwała wrote:
> Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
> what "image" should I use?
See below.
> Hardware spec:
>
> CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
> RAM: 32MB
> HDD: 6GB
> BIOS year: 19
Hi,
On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
> Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so, what
> "image" should I use?
>
> Hardware spec:
>
> CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
> RAM: 32MB
Since your 32M of RAM is be
> Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware?
The answer is "yes", but it depends what you mean by "Debian" and more
importantly it depends what you want to do with it.
Stefan
On 5/5/25 15:01, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-232, 1x USB 2.0
A couple years ago I su
On 2025-05-05 4:01 PM, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
It should be possible using Debian version from that era, or somewhat
later. https://www.debian.org/releases
Check “Debian archiv
On 5/5/25 13:01, Rafał Lichwała wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware?
That depends upon the hardware, upon the system administrator knowledge
and skill, and upon what technical resources are available.
If so, what "image" should I use?
Har
On 6/5/25 05:56, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2025, Rafa? Lichwa?a wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-2
On Mon, 5 May 2025, Rafa? Lichwa?a wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so, what
"image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-232, 1x USB 2.0
The ram is going
On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 4:39 PM Rafał Lichwała wrote:
>
> Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
> what "image" should I use?
>
> Hardware spec:
>
> CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
> RAM: 32MB
> HDD: 6GB
> BIOS year: 1998
> CD
Hi,
Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so,
what "image" should I use?
Hardware spec:
CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz
RAM: 32MB
HDD: 6GB
BIOS year: 1998
CD-ROM, FDD 1,4MB, RS-232, 1x USB 2.0
Regards,
Rafal
On 11/4/25 16:05, didier gaumet wrote:
These solutions (Windows Remote Desktop, Anydesk, Teamviewer) have the
great advantage of not needing a non-technical user setting up
anything technical (IP address, firewall, whatever...)
Ironically, these tools are favoured by scammers to take over
Le 11/04/2025 à 10:05, didier gaumet a écrit :
[...]
When you have access to his PC, you can inquire about software and
hardware issues
[...]
...investigate...
Lousy Speaking Didier
x27;t vouch for its effectiveness though, because in many cases it won't
solve anything, just give you more clues to make more accurate
diagnosis, with additional help from EventLog and Crashdump analysis.
If it's a hardware issue, you won't fix it remotely.
--
With kindes
Le 10/04/2025 à 09:14, Michel Verdier a écrit :
A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I
have no access to his system.
Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav,
smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system?
But it
On 2025-04-10, David Christensen wrote:
> Answering the above questions should facilitate obtaining trouble-shooting
> advice via this mailing list.
I am not asking help to solve his problem - and obviously I would be on
the wrong mailing list :). I am searching tools suitable for a very basic
us
On 10/4/25 15:14, Michel Verdier wrote:
A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I
have no access to his system.
Get him to install Anydesk and you will be able to connect remotely, so
long as he has an internet connnection
On 4/10/25 08:35, David Christensen wrote:
On 4/10/25 00:14, Michel Verdier wrote:
A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$
I assume you mean Microsoft Windows (?). Which version (4.0, XP, Vista,
7, 8, 8.5, 10, 11, etc.) and which edition (Home, Pro, Workstation, etc.)?
Here is a better lis
?
Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav,
smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system?
But it has to be fully automated or with a simple ui. For example running
clamav from shell commands is beyond his power.
Answering the above questions
A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I
have no access to his system.
Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav,
smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system?
But it has to be fully automated or with a simple ui. For
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 4:52 AM Michel Verdier wrote:
>
> A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I
> have no access to his system.
>
> Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav,
> smartmontools or memtest, either running on
On 4/10/25 09:14, Michel Verdier wrote:
A poor friend of mine is stucked on w$ and his computer has problems. I
have no access to his system.
Do you know a way to check his hardware, programs such as clamav,
smartmontools or memtest, either running on w$ or from a live system?
But it has to be
On Tue, 2025-03-04 at 10:02 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Van Snyder writes:
>
> > The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work
> > with a Quadro K2200.
>
> But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story.
After I installed it,inxi -G reported the nouveau driver
Van Snyder writes:
> The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work with a Quadro
> K2200.
But you didn't check? The release notes tell a different story.
> NVidia recommends the 570 driver.
They always recommend the latest.
> The nvidia-driver package from non-free apparently doesn't work with a
> Quadro K2200. NVidia recommends the 570 driver.
>
> When I first installed the system, the left-hand pane of Evolution
> would spontaneously scroll, even if a different window had keyboard and
> mouse focus, and the mouse
On Sun, 2025-03-02 at 21:35 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Van Snyder writes:
>
> > I install the driver by running the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-
> > 570.124.04.run script at level 3, then rebooting.
>
> Why?
>
> > Is that DKMS?
>
> To be clear, it's a manual installation of drivers from the
> manufac
Van Snyder writes:
> I install the driver by running the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-570.124.04.run script
> at level 3, then rebooting.
Why?
> Is that DKMS?
To be clear, it's a manual installation of drivers from the
manufacturer. Definitely not DKMS. You want install stuff manually, you
get to upda
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 22:38 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> If it's a DKMS, which is what my nvidia driver is, then it will try
> to
> be built for any kernel install and should work as long as you have
> headers installed. Though there have been times that things have
> changed
> and its build is broke
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 02:24:04PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
> The NVidia kernel module is built by running a bash script. It's not a
> .deb package.
>
> Will it still be automatigically rebuilt?
If it's a DKMS, which is what my nvidia driver is, then it will try to
be built for any kernel in
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 21:02 +0100, Hans wrote:
> With an upgrade the build of the nvidia-kernel-module should run
> automatically.
The NVidia kernel module is built by running a bash script. It's not a
.deb package.
Will it still be automatigically rebuilt?
On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:27:25 -0800
Van Snyder wrote:
>
> If I get the metapackages linux-image-amd64 and limux-headers-amd64,
> will I need to rebuild the NVidia driver every time it loads a new
> kernel?
Probably yes. If you install a fixed kernel version, you'll probably
need only the headers
Am Samstag, 1. März 2025, 20:27:25 CET schrieb Van Snyder:
> On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 22:00 -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
> > That's correct. You're probably missing the metapackage that brings
> > in new kernels automatically. For an amd64 machine, that metapackage
> > is named "linux-image-amd64". (If
On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 22:00 -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
>
> That's correct. You're probably missing the metapackage that brings
> in new kernels automatically. For an amd64 machine, that metapackage
> is named "linux-image-amd64". (If you use DKMS kernel modules,
> you'll
> also want the correspon
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 04:06 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800
> > Van Snyder wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a yea
On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 04:06:37 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800
> > Van Snyder wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a ye
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 4:04 AM Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800
> Van Snyder wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely
> > > doesn't have enough
> > > backporting to fully support it prope
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:27:40 -0800
Van Snyder wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 22:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Your kernel is older than your CPU by about a year, so likely
> > doesn't have enough
> > backporting to fully support it properly. A newer kernel could be
> > all it takes to
> > make
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:00:41 -0800
Van Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 12:46 -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
> > On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 14:34 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40 -0800, Van Snyder wrote:
> > > > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the k
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