So how much energy has this thread wasted?
On 5/8/2025 9:33 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
<to...@tuxteam.de> wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100,debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
wrote:
Greg<curtys...@gmail.com> wrote:
older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity
than something small and more recent might use.
While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify
buying a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the
embedded energy in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was necessary
to produce the laptop) is typically higher than all the
electricity that the laptop will consume during its lifetime.
So you're saying the embedded energy in an obsolete laptop is
lesser than the embedded energy in a modern one to the exact
extent where there is no ecological profit in using the modern
one as opposed to the obsolete one?
No, he's not saying anything that requires exactness. He's saying
that the energy to make a new laptop is greater than the energy
that will be used by operating the old laptop.
Nothing to do with the embedded energy of the old laptop at all.
Simply that there's no justification on energy grounds to make the
new laptop, however little energy it uses.
IOW: the embedded energy in the old + new laptop is greater than just
the embedded energy in the old one.
No banana! The embedded energy in the new laptop is greater than the
operational energy used by the old laptop in its lifetime.
Why is this so difficult?
