Oliver Schode wrote: ... > My heart goes out to those with a heart for working things, we will > always carry the day if only because there were strictly less gadgety > things around in the past, with much fewer still with us, and this is > strictly always true. Quantity matters, this isn't just a power thing. > For what it's worth, my oldest "pet" now is actually a Haswell, i7, > 16GB, 2014-ish?! Wasn't my purchase. adopted. Running Linux, thing > called Debian, in this case in fact a full-blown KDE, of course up to > date. Why on Earth would that not do? Hah! Easy, responsive, everything > works.
i had half a closet full of old computer parts that were not going to be used. when i built the first version of this new desktop the previous system was gladly retired. it was loud, the monitor took up half my desk and weighed 70lbs or more, etc. now i can pick up this monitor with two fingers. i was able to repurpose the case from my old Dell desktop for this one - by weight and amount of materials it is by far the biggest component. all that stuff from my closet went to the recyclers (probably for whatever gold and other metals they could get from them) a stack of old drives i zeroed out and took those to the next recycle drop off day. i've been running Debian since Potato, but at that time i was also booting into win98 (and that became winXP for a bit before i finally was able to get rid of that mess) i think it was Woody when i could ditch win entirely. there was a time when i was running KDE and then they made some changes i didn't like so i tried Gnome and it was ok, but then they too made a bunch of changes i didn't like (and that the machine i used to have could not handle) so i found MATE and that has been ok and i've stuck with that. i don't want my UI to change out from under me... i run Debian testing just to see if i can help catch bugs, but i also have a stable partition just in case something comes up and i need to be able to get on-line. > ...As for noise, I have rather acute hearing and even watching some > livestream on that thing, if you had to, there is nothing to it. No > different from some SFF or laptop indeed. For the sake of completeness, > this is a refurbed system, but this is how we live up to it. And keep > it up. Until about two years ago I kept a Phenom II in operation, this > is of 2009 vintage or therearbout? Classic. In the end it used to make > a cool music server, among some other things, loved it. There's > someting for everything, but either way I doubt we'll save the planet > here. ;) no, but if millions of people are able to turn off one piece of extra juice suckage then that could make up the difference of a power plant or two - depending upon how those power plants are fueled it adds up. every bit that doesn't add to the compound interest of CO2 damage that is going to happen in the future will be a difference even if the children and grandchildren will curse us it will be that bit less horrid for them. songbird