On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 04:41:07PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg <curtys...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> older machines are also normally using a lot more electricity > > >> than something small and more recent might use. > > > > > > While that's obviously good, that doesn't necessarily justify buying > > > a new machine from an ecological perspective: AFAIK the embedded > > > energy in a laptop (i.e. the energy that was necessary to produce > > > the laptop) is typically higher than all the electricity that the > > > laptop will consume during its lifetime. > > > > So you're saying the embedded energy in an obsolete laptop is lesser > > than the embedded energy in a modern one to the exact extent where > > there is no ecological profit in using the modern one as opposed to > > the obsolete one? > > No, he's not saying anything that requires exactness. He's saying that > the energy to make a new laptop is greater than the energy that will be > used by operating the old laptop. > > Nothing to do with the embedded energy of the old laptop at all. Simply > that there's no justification on energy grounds to make the new laptop, > however little energy it uses.
IOW: the embedded energy in the old + new laptop is greater than just the embedded energy in the old one. Cheers -- t
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