On 16/1/09 14:40, Ian G wrote:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Dispute_resolution
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Which immediately raises the question: why is this important?

It's important to understand why a slightly more formal and documented approach to dispute resolution is a useful and valuable direction for all of us.



First the recent history, as a context: In the past month we saw a series of events (4 to my counting) that brought to the forefront the potential for trouble. During those events, some people may have crossed the line, as far as legal and commercial and ethical behaviour went.

My point here is not to name names, or point the finger, and indeed, we can all recognise that this will just result in counter-naming and counter-fingering. Which is just lost efficiency.

My point is this: Crossing the line means more loss of efficiency and more trouble. The former wheel spinning and distractions we can all appreciate ... but let me just mention the latter. If someone crosses the line in terms of legal behaviour, *and* a court case happens, this will be very expensive for them, because they will have to pay the fees as the respective attorneys battle it out [1].

So, back to efficiency. It is very useful for all here and for Mozilla to reduce the loss of efficiency. One way we can do this is to clearly channel disputes and set-up the rules by which the flaws can be opened up and dealt with. That is, if you act in the way described HERE, then you are in a dispute and you have to take it seriously. Follow the rules HERE. You can name names, list flaws and bugs, etc, but do it HERE.

(Then, if you are not in a dispute, then you should follow the normal rules found elsewhere in the rest of society, which deals with any questions in its own way.)

That is, to a certain extent, we create a forum where names can be named, flaws can be written about, and the participants will get a certain degree of protection. Do it elsewhere, outside, and you get no protection. When you go into court, your defence [2] is that "Mozilla procedure for making these forms of complaints is HERE. That's what I did."



Finally, it is also worth pointing out that this applies as much to Mozilla as anyone else. Consider the policy which states that Mozo can e.g., drop the root. If Mozo were to go ahead and drop a root, without a relatively clear procedure for that, then I would speculate [3] it would have trouble surviving a challenge in court. However, if Mozo has the right (in policy) and the procedure (that new page) and follows the procedure (in bugzilla) then it is in a much stronger position.



iang

[1] this is generally true regardless of the merits. The love of lawyers is the most expensive thing you will ever pay for in your life!

[2] This is not a complete defence, of course. Let's not get distracted on binary defences, they don't exist.

[3] see thread "dropping the root is useless" and other popular hits of 2008 :)
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/45e488d613080d71
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