Michal Rudolf wrote:
Hi!
> http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TkCmd/font.htm#M31
> has the following section
Seems much more to the point.
Someone around here who
a) uses Windows
b) can compile Scid there
c) tests Michals proposal?
(I'm not able to satisfy conditions a and in consequence b.)
I c
By mistake I send this reply only to Bruno
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 18:55, Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
> Let's summarize things we seem to agree:
>> - The main icon might be changed..
>>
>
>>I hope not.
>
>
>> - The icon upper left in the program windows should be changed, if
>> technically possible, to
2010-02-28 18:40:13, Benoit St-Pierre:
http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TkCmd/font.htm#M31
has the following section
PLATFORM-SPECIFIC ISSUES
The following named system fonts are supported:
X Windows:
All valid X font names, including those listed by xlsfonts(1), are
available.
MS Windows:
In the first link, the last answer of the page points to **Good Looking Tk** :
http://wiki.tcl.tk/9485
Some inspiration to find there, no doubt.
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A Google search for "tcl/tk suboptimal fonts" gave me these two
intriguing links. I ho
1. A 10-minutes way to improve the look of a Tcl/tk GUI, with some
screeshots show that the windows can be sexier than the actual Scid :
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/349409/why-are-tk-guis-considered-ugl
Pascal Georges wrote:
Hi!
>> I would suggest to go the other way round. Simply cause the
>> current icons are GIF you'd have limited colours no alpha
>> and so on it seems better to design them in a more suitable
>> format. svg would be ideal as one could zoom them to any
>> size, but PNG in prop
2010/2/27 Alexander Wagner :
> I would suggest to go the other way round. Simply cause the
> current icons are GIF you'd have limited colours no alpha
> and so on it seems better to design them in a more suitable
> format. svg would be ideal as one could zoom them to any
> size, but PNG in proper
Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
>>> Is it possible to change the characters? Using the same character as in
>>> "File", "Edit", etc would be totally fine.
>> I don't understand what you refer to with characters.
>
>
> I am referring to fonts. If you look at the snapshots, "File, Edit,
> Game, Search,
2010/2/28 Alexander Wagner :
> Just send them by PM. I'll add them. I'd reconsider the yellow arrow on
> white, it has IMHO to low contrast. And probably you find a nicer tree ;)
Sure, I will propose some improvements. Others can do, as well.
> You've to set the fonts in Scids menu (Options/Fo
Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> Nice! And thanks for being so quick and responsive. I made a 10-minute
> hack to the snapshot you sent me, just to show how icons can be
> further improved with little effort (I just changed the nine icons
> upper right). If you guys like them, I can do something more a
2010-02-28 16:04:53, Bruno Rizzuti:
> While I were at it, I also took three snapshots to compare the
> characters used in the menus for Scid with the one used by Firefox and
> OpenOffice (same also in other softwares). As you can see, the ones of
> Firefox and OpenOffice are distinctively clearer a
2010/2/28 Alexander Wagner :
> done as far as I found suitable ones in Gnome Stock, ie all Chess specific
> things are missing still. Icons should be 16x16 png format (alternatively
> SVG then I can scale down). I suggest to base design on Gnome Stock parts
> for common look & feel. Note that I al
Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> - Icons within the main windows can be changed.
done as far as I found suitable ones in Gnome Stock, ie all Chess
specific things are missing still. Icons should be 16x16 png format
(alternatively SVG then I can scale down). I suggest to base design on
Gnome Stock
Definite improvement!
On Feb 28, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Alexander Wagner wrote:
> Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>> - Icons within the main windows can be changed.
>
> http://www.stellarcom.org/scid/newicons.png
>
> What do you think? I just replaced icons where I've found a replacement
> in the
Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> - Icons within the main windows can be changed.
http://www.stellarcom.org/scid/newicons.png
What do you think? I just replaced icons where I've found a replacement
in the gnome stock icons.
(It's a quick hack, not in cvs, but no mockup either.)
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Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> Let's summarize things we seem to agree:
> - The main icon might be changed.
> - The icon upper left in the program windows should be changed, if
> technically possible, to match the main icon.
I'm not sure about this point, simply cause I have no icon there. Could
be
Let's start by the end :
> Sorry, you have to get a point here. Scid does not compare to
> Excel. Excel is not a database.
The point is that "game 0" is sheer nonsense. It does not mean
anything. It can't mean anything. Nobody understands what it means.
We just go along. When a newbie looks a
Let's summarize things we seem to agree:
- The main icon might be changed.
- The icon upper left in the program windows should be changed, if
technically possible, to match the main icon.
- Icons within the main windows can be changed.
- Startup window can be off by default (it might pop-up in case
Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> The icons
> - I don't have a better set for the icons within the main windows,
> neither I am particularly good with the graphic. Still, I feel
> anything would be better than those. You can send me the old icons,
> and i can try to improve them. You will be free to acc
2010-02-27 19:24:40, Bruno Rizzuti:
> Splash screen
> I stand by my point. Just to make an example, when i launch OpenOffice
> it doesn't tell me that it has found a custom dictionary or that the
> spellchecker is activated on the Italian language. At least, it should
> not pop up per default.
My
2010-02-27 18:55:15, Alexander Wagner:
> However, we don't have better icons. I'm the wrong one to draw them
> (they'd be even worse than the current ones) and we would need quite
> some specialised icons so you can not just reuse the usual say gnome
> stock icons which are available in decent qual
First of all, thanks to you Alexander, and also to others, for the
answers. As a common user, it is always nice to have attention from
the developers and from other users, even though we can disagree on
many points. Also, thanks for getting my feedback in the right way.
Some comments:
The icons
-
rzan...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hi!
> As for Bruno's suggestions I think that one should do reasonable
> requests or at least help out a little (draw some icons yourself if you
> think they are so important, I personally don't care about that, I run
> scid from the terminal 8) ). I believe that changi
Hi,
I wonder if Pascal ever gets tired of our complains.
I found out that under Options -> Windows -> Save layout
one can actually do what I was requesting. I set up my layout as I want
it, with the board, pgn window and engine in docked mode and I saved the
layout as default and scid remembere
Let's concede that point for argument's sake. How does that relate to
Bruno suggestions? It simply does not.
So Alex' concern quoted above is just another way to mention his old
beef against docking mode. Yes, changing the GUI could lead to worse.
We can generalize this argument to prove that co
rzan...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hi!
> I don't find it useful to have the game list window in docked mode, one
> can hardly see anything. Some windows are just not meant to be docked
> and should pop up by default. I however like the pgn window in docked
> mode but I would like to be able to have the e
Hello,
I agree with Alexander.
> I agree however that probably some
> points could improved. But I also admit: even for some of the more
> recent "improvements" in the GUI handling I sometimes come to the
> conclusion that the old behaviour was much more to the point. Similar for
> this docki
Alex,
We all can understand that there were reasons why Scid looks the way
it is. Still, even you should know Bruno is right on all counts. He
is so much right that it's not even worth discussing.
Best regards
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Bruno Rizzuti wrote:
Hi!
> 1. "Ugly icon. Brownish. What are those two pieces of hair?". Those
> are the impression of a friend of mine. I fully agree.
Arguably ugly. Still it's the one that is there since ... ages.
> 2. Splash screen. It makes a program look outdated, and Scid doesn't
> really
hi everybody,
> ...Well, I have tons of other observations, but I think it is enough
> here. I have just highlighted things that pops up to my eye (as a
> common user) *before even starting to use the program*! If you are
> further interested in my observations, I could add more. And please,
> don
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