Bruno Rizzuti wrote:

Hi!

> Let's summarize things we seem to agree:
> - The main icon might be changed.
> - The icon upper left in the program windows should be changed, if
> technically possible, to match the main icon.

I'm not sure about this point, simply cause I have no icon there. Could 
be Windows specific(?)

> - Icons within the main windows can be changed.
> - Startup window can be off by default (it might pop-up in case of
> errors at startup).

The latter might be difficult due to how it is done. (This window does 
only show text sent to if from various areas of startup and doesn't know 
what type of text it is.)

> - Default chessboard can be with pieces Merida and plain color.
> - Short headers in pgn window can be on by default.
> - (Following Michal's suggestion) Only basic information should be
> provided in gameinfo until a game is saved.
> I hope I am correct, so far...

Yes.

> Now the icons:
> I asked for the current icons just to have a template to modify.
> Alternatively, you can just tell me which dimension and format (png,
> gif, ...) you like, and i'll try to do my best. If somebody (Israel)
> already made a new logo, it is probably better than the current one.
> If you care about my opinion, i will be glad to see it.

I'll see to come up with something here. There're some (here Michal is 
correct) which can be reused like New, Save, Open. If I remember 
correctly we didn't change only them cause of consistency.

> And finally, the general behavior:
> I don't want to insist, but i still fail to see at least why
> - we cannot use a more informative name such as Untitle1 or Database1
> instead of Clipboard;

It _IS_ the clipbase and it does not make sense to create a database by 
default cause you'll have to create it on disk cluttering up the latter 
with empty temp files. Unlike your Excel example Scid does not load 
everything to RAM work there on the base and then write the whole thing 
back to disk upon save but you work on a single record (ie. a game) that 
is stored to the base you've opened once you hit save. That is this base 
has to exist on disk already.

I agree that the concept "Clipbase" is maybe a bit complex but it is one 
of the essential strengths of the program and I think indeed every user 
has to learn it. If you see it only as a display of the clipboard I fear 
you miss a bunch of features.

> - the game 0 cannot be called game 1, even if it is... how do you want
> to call it... virtual/unsaved/special, choose yourself;

It is not a name here either. You need some way to add 
notations/positions to run searches from and this is done in this game 0 
which gets "game n" once you add it to the base.

But if I now get it: your point is just the string shown? Ie. "game 0" 
being to abstract? Not the concept of a game that is actually not 
content of any base? (This is indeed an important concept like the 
clipbase.)

> - the virtual/unsaved/special/starting database (or however you can
> call it, instead of database) is n. 0 and cannot be considered n. 1.

?

Scid starts up displaying the clipbase which is a RAM based database 
that always exists. It makes perfect sense to call it how it is called, 
but I don't get what you want to tell. Sorry.

> But i won't push it further, because there are also other things that
> could be more important on usability that i didn't even mention yet.
> If you feel this discussion is useful and can lead to improvements, i
> will also have other observations.

IMHO it is. There're just some specialities that have to exist for a 
database app, that's all.

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