Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-26 Thread Bob Proulx
ruckusrogue wrote: > Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages > and their dependencies after installing? Yes. Autoremove. > For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of > gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only > removed eog,

Re: vim doesn't have python support?

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post on this list] On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 03:54:22PM -0400, Dale Harris wrote: > I had to install vim-nox (or one of the other variants), to get python > support. Might be nice if vim-python-jedi required that. Wishing for it doesn't make it happpen. Looks you have found a bu

apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-26 Thread ruckusrogue
Anyone know the proper tool (shell) to best remove (purge) packages and their dependencies after installing? For instance on a wheezy install when I added 'eog' (eye of gnome) it added 15 other dependency packages. Then removing ego only removed eog, literally. The dependencies remained. Is that

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-26 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/26/2013 1:12 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: [...] "Machine" is a bad term because it is not "Machine Oriented Programming". It is "Object Oriented Programming" - because it emulates real world objects - no

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.10.2013 15:30, Joel Rees a écrit : On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:26 PM, wrote: Le 23.10.2013 14:22, Joel Rees a écrit : On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:47 AM, wrote: Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 18.10.2

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 13:37, Reco a écrit : > SunFire X-series ILOM web-interface, for example. Unusable in opera. > IBM's HMC web-interface. Unusable in opera. > Anything based on Oracle's ADF will get you one big 'you're not > welcome > here, boo' if you use opera. > Sadly, some of us need to use br

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 06:18, Glenn English a écrit : There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing in Aptitude: lqk xReally quit Aptitude?x x [ Yes ][ No ] x mqj and others don't. Can anyone te

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Jape Person
On 10/26/2013 07:46 PM, Glenn English wrote: On Oct 26, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Jape Person wrote: I'm sure you were right to first suspect locale settings. It's really the most obvious culprit. Are those the same for the systems that have the problem and those that don't? In all, "egrep -v ^# /

Enlightenment E17 and off-screen windows

2013-10-26 Thread Robert Waldner
Aloha, some applications don't play nice with the way E17 handles virtual desktops and will position themselves off-screen. Anyone know of a way to force such windows back on-screen? "Cleanup windows" kindof works, but will rearrange everything else, too - usually not what I want. Also, as

Re: wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread Rick Thomas
A few years ago, ext4 was regarded as "experimental". The default filesystem that the Debian-Installer offered was ext3, with ext4 as an option (along with ext2 and some others) for those with special needs or a love of adventure. By 2013, the general opinion is that ext4 has all the important

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 26, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Jape Person wrote: > I'm sure you were right to first suspect locale settings. It's really the > most obvious culprit. Are those the same for the systems that have the > problem and those that don't? In all, "egrep -v ^# /etc/locale.gen" says "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8".

Re: wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread Brian
On Sat 26 Oct 2013 at 22:13:46 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > i aborted the install of wheezy. > A ext4 filesystem would be allocated and no other choice is available. There are 13 choices for how to use a partition when partitioning a disk. (Press ENTER when Use as: is highlighted in 'Partition setti

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-26 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:28:57 + > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM, wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:31:55 -0600 >>> Bob Proulx wrote: Sudo has been on HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, IBM AIX and others for many years. It is

Re: sysctl.conf

2013-10-26 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 21:37 +0200, Roland RoLaNd wrote: >> >> I'm reading up on how to harden debian. >> i just checked /etc/sysctl.conf and noticed that everything is >> commented out. >> do that mean they're running as defaults or none of w

Re: sysctl.conf

2013-10-26 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Roland RoLaNd wrote: > > I'm reading up on how to harden debian. > i just checked /etc/sysctl.conf and noticed that everything is commented > out. > do that mean they're running as defaults or none of what exists in this file > is implemented? The commented-out s

Re: wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:37 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > On 26/10/2013 22:25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:13 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > >> Hi, > >> i aborted the install of wheezy. > >> A ext4 filesystem would be allocated and no other choice is available. > >> A couple of years ag

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Jape Person
On 10/26/2013 02:33 PM, Glenn English wrote: On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jape Person wrote: On 10/26/2013 11:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:19:32AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: On 10/26/2013 01:18 AM, Glenn English wrote: There are several Debian machines around, and

Re: wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread mess-mate
On 26/10/2013 22:25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:13 +0200, mess-mate wrote: Hi, i aborted the install of wheezy. A ext4 filesystem would be allocated and no other choice is available. A couple of years ago ext4 cause problems. I have to transfer some ext3 data from squeeze to wh

RE: sysctl.conf

2013-10-26 Thread Roland RoLaNd
that's the thing, i'm reading up on sysctl and don't have the necessary knowledge to know what to "expect" at the moment.though some did actually intrigue me such as: 19 #net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter=1 20 #net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter=1 43 # Do not accept ICMP redirects (prevent MITM attacks

Re: wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:13 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Hi, > i aborted the install of wheezy. > A ext4 filesystem would be allocated and no other choice is available. > A couple of years ago ext4 cause problems. > I have to transfer some ext3 data from squeeze to wheezy. > So , is this solved and fu

wheezy & ext4 ?

2013-10-26 Thread mess-mate
Hi, i aborted the install of wheezy. A ext4 filesystem would be allocated and no other choice is available. A couple of years ago ext4 cause problems. I have to transfer some ext3 data from squeeze to wheezy. So , is this solved and fully compatible with ext3. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > On 2013-10-26 Glenn English wrote: > >> There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd >> thing in Aptitude: > >>lqk >>xReally quit Aptitude?x >>x [ Yes ][ No ] x >>

Re: sysctl.conf

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 21:37 +0200, Roland RoLaNd wrote: > All, > > > I'm reading up on how to harden debian. > i just checked /etc/sysctl.conf and noticed that everything is > commented out. > do that mean they're running as defaults or none of what exists in > this file is implemented? What do

Re: vim doesn't have python support?

2013-10-26 Thread Dale Harris
I had to install vim-nox (or one of the other variants), to get python support. Might be nice if vim-python-jedi required that. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 03:13:08PM -0400, Dale Harris wrote: > Noticing on SID that vim doesn't have python support, and there doesn't > appear to be any package that p

sysctl.conf

2013-10-26 Thread Roland RoLaNd
All, I'm reading up on how to harden debian.i just checked /etc/sysctl.conf and noticed that everything is commented out.do that mean they're running as defaults or none of what exists in this file is implemented?

vim doesn't have python support?

2013-10-26 Thread Dale Harris
Noticing on SID that vim doesn't have python support, and there doesn't appear to be any package that provides that support. Which is odd when there is vim-python-jedi and python-jedi which requires a version of vim with python compiled in. Am I missing something? Or was this an oversight by the p

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:33 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > comic relief is always welcome Your nick tells us Johnny ;). Or do you have the same name, as an U.S. Democratic politician Mr. Atkinson? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2013-10-26 Glenn English wrote: > There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd > thing in Aptitude: > lqk > xReally quit Aptitude?x > x [ Yes ][ No ] x > mqj You should look at your $TERM var

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jape Person wrote: > On 10/26/2013 11:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:19:32AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: >>> On 10/26/2013 01:18 AM, Glenn English wrote: There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing i

Re: Gnome login screen not shown

2013-10-26 Thread bhuvanesh kumar
This got fixed after todays upate of gdm3 However, its not completely fixed...The white screen showing error message with sad system smiley is gone and actual login screen is shown...when i type username password and login...it shows a blank screen with debian icon at the bottom and a mouse poi

Re: Messed up audio settings

2013-10-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: Hello Stephen, >The sound didn't sound right. The voice sounds quieter, and like the >singer is singing under water! The last time (well, the only time) I experienced that I rebooted and everything was okay. I never did find out

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-26 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >[...] >> "Machine" is a bad term because it is not "Machine Oriented >> Programming". It is "Object Oriented Programming" - because it emulates >> real world objects - not machines. > > And a machine is

Re: Messed up audio settings

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:55:44AM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > problem. Using Epiphany, I visited the YouTube site and played a music video. > The sound didn't sound right. The voice sounds quieter, and like the singer > is singing under water! I canceled out of it, launched iceweasel, and pl

Re: Battery level in Testing

2013-10-26 Thread Erwan David
Le 26/10/2013 18:02, Erwan David a écrit : > Le 26/10/2013 12:02, Erwan David a écrit : >> Hello all >> >> Since yesterday my KDE from testing does not detect the battery level >> and acts as though it is zero (lenovo T530, it worked before). >> Windowd on the same laptop show 99%, thus the battery

Re: Battery level in Testing

2013-10-26 Thread Erwan David
Le 26/10/2013 12:02, Erwan David a écrit : > Hello all > > Since yesterday my KDE from testing does not detect the battery level > and acts as though it is zero (lenovo T530, it worked before). > Windowd on the same laptop show 99%, thus the battery is not empty. What > can I do to detect where the

Re: Messed up audio settings

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:55 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > The voice sounds quieter, and like the singer > is singing under water! Sounds like a fish, really fishy. Did you verify that sound is ok, when playing a PCM by a .wav, by a media player, instead of a codec in a container by a browser, ju

Messed up audio settings

2013-10-26 Thread Stephen Powell
Well, one thing leads to another. I started using Epiphany instead of iceweasel recently due to the sluggish performance of iceweasel. Now I have a different problem. Using Epiphany, I visited the YouTube site and played a music video. The sound didn't sound right. The voice sounds quieter, and

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 04:29 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > People that like to put other people in categories, and those who > don't. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Jape Person
On 10/26/2013 11:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:19:32AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: On 10/26/2013 01:18 AM, Glenn English wrote: There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing in Aptitude: lqk xReally qu

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:20:06AM +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit : > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > >> Bonjour, > >> > >> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No > > > > We cannot help wi

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only > > agree. > > That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the > l

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread John Hasler
berenger wrote: > Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion > and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that > they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. It is. The religious "right" has been trying to force compulsory christianity on

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:19:32AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: > On 10/26/2013 01:18 AM, Glenn English wrote: > >There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing > >in Aptitude: > > > > lqk > > xReally quit Aptitude?x > > x [ Yes

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:15:28 +0530 Kailash wrote: > To convert a PowerPoint presentation with embedded multimedia to PDF > would be one example. Thank you for the idea. Such presentation is an invaluable tool for dissolving audience attention completely. There's just thing I can not get ye

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-26, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_en_Alsace-Moselle > > Is that article available in English? My high school French of > >50 years ago is only good enough for the article to tease me. Apparently, that article is not available in English. Look her

Lets continue at D-community-offtopic - Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
In Germany many church hospitals don't help victims of brutal rape. They are not allowed not to help them and all the times this happened they claimed that it was a misunderstanding, but the misunderstanding happens again and again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > > >> and ou

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/26/2013 5:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered using those

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > >> and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The > >> sound

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Kailash
> why produce PDF with such > capabilities. > > Reco > > To convert a PowerPoint presentation with embedded multimedia to PDF would be one example. K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". The net result is the ch

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Curt wrote: On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. Well, even in France the waters

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-26 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/25/2013 10:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/25/2013 9:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/25/2013 8:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Anyway, from an onlookers perspective you are being excessively pedantic and hung

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit : In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". Really? I thought t

Re: aptitude misconfigure?

2013-10-26 Thread Jape Person
On 10/26/2013 01:18 AM, Glenn English wrote: There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing in Aptitude: lqk xReally quit Aptitude?x x [ Yes ][ No ] x mqj and others don't. Can anyone

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and > government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be > honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. > Well, even in France the waters may

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
> > SunFire X-series ILOM web-interface, for example. Unusable in opera. > > IBM's HMC web-interface. Unusable in opera. > > Anything based on Oracle's ADF will get you one big 'you're not > > welcome > > here, boo' if you use opera. > > Sadly, some of us need to use browsers to do work, not to su

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Zenaan Harkness wrote: [SNIP] The same software likely is available for Debian too, but I don't know if there are meta packages available too, I've been wanting to understand meta-packages for a personal project. Gives me one more assignment. If retirement isn't for learning and expanding ho

Re: OT: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-26, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > JFTR I switched to QupZilla as my "main browser". I've got Opera > installed too and I even have got Chrome installed. > Just remember we desire software to be free, but not necessarily you to be free to choose software that is not free, a choice you are req

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:31:27 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > "Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary discussion. Lines > longer than 80 characters are acceptable for computer-generated output > (e.g., ls -l)." - http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > I suspect most MUAs wrap at 72 c

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The > sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". > > The net result is the church receives

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit : In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and tha

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 12:43, Reco a écrit : On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:18:44 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: At the time I switched, there was a far better support for SVG in opera. 3 years ago. It was the only browser able to render html into svg, which is standard. Hmm. Probably you have a

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered using those PCs as disk-less X term

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:24 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:43 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/: > > > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line > > > > The mailing list

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:43 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote: > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/: > > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line > > The mailing list policy allows to make code one line, even if it should > be to

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:16:47 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 10/26/2013 01:01 PM, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200 > > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > >> No free alternative can allow me to use things > >> the way I want: firefox lacks lot of feature

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:08 +0400, Reco wrote: > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/: > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH # Should be one line The mailing list policy allows to make code one line, even if it should be to much chars :). export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-l

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:11:40 +0700 Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to know if it is possible to install some firmware in > the 3.2 kernel but from the 2.6 session ? > > I need to install some firmwares to make the 3.2 kernel > works on my machine but I can only access the compute

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 10/26/2013 01:01 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: No free alternative can allow me to use things the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is just useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me f

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-26 Thread Diogene Laerce
You won't have more replies by duplicating thread 4H hours later. Sorry for the duplicate but I wanted to put the word "session" cos I thought it wasn't clear enough. I have personally no idea, but I would probably try to chroot on the 3.2 kernel. But it won't change anything: since you a mo

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:25:43 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I wonder if you can "edit" the executable to change the path, with > tools like ldconfig. Never used them, but maybe someone here will know. Have you tried to do it like this? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mesa-di

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Brian
On Sat 26 Oct 2013 at 11:25:43 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 26.10.2013 10:35, François Patte a écrit : > > > >And here is the solution (for those who could need some pdf features > >which are not supported by evince, xpdf..., but which can be produced > >using free soft like Te

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:18:44 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > At the time I switched, there was a far better support for SVG in > opera. 3 years ago. It was the only browser able to render html into > svg, which is standard. Hmm. Probably you have a valid point here. While usecase o

OT: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:18 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 26.10.2013 12:01, Reco a écrit : > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200 > > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > >> No free alternative can allow me to use things > >> the way I want: firefox lacks lot

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only > > agree. > > That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the > libre to

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 12:01, Reco a écrit : Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: No free alternative can allow me to use things the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is just useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > About the fact that adobe should maintain their products... I can only > agree. That's the whole point. Other distros and Debian give you and me the libre to use proprietary, restricted software. We sometimes need it and we

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 09:11, Diogene Laerce a écrit : Hi, I'd like to know if it is possible to install some firmware in the 3.2 kernel but from the 2.6 session ? I need to install some firmwares to make the 3.2 kernel works on my machine but I can only access the computer when the 2.6.35 is loaded :

Battery level in Testing

2013-10-26 Thread Erwan David
Hello all Since yesterday my KDE from testing does not detect the battery level and acts as though it is zero (lenovo T530, it worked before). Windowd on the same laptop show 99%, thus the battery is not empty. What can I do to detect where the error comes from (KDE, ACPI, other ?) and correct thi

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:41:57 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > No free alternative can allow me to use things > the way I want: firefox lacks lot of features opera have, gnash is just > useless in practice for streaming, nouveau does not give me full 3D > acceleration, and ther

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 11:47, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit of > peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace,

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit of > > peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace, a little > > bit > > of libre. You can't b

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi François, > > > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > > But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not > > > living on the moon and

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 11:30, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : There's a German song called "Ein bisschen Frieden" (A little bit of peace). There isn't something like a little bit of peace, a little bit of libre. You can't be a little bit pregnant. Note that, in practice, the non-libre software flash plugin,

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 11:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi François, > > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not > > living on the moon and have to deal with the world as it is and try > > their best to be a

Re: out to get out of an apt-get problem...[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 11:02, François Patte a écrit : Le 24/10/2013 23:42, Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 25/10/13 04:42, François Patte wrote: Bonsoir, trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmjpegutils-2.1.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegutils-2.0-0 1:2.1.0+debian-1

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi François, On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 10:20 +0200, François Patte wrote: > But there are two kinds of people using free softwares, some are not > living on the moon and have to deal with the world as it is and try > their best to be as "free" as they can, others seem to belong to the > world of ayato

Re: out to get out of an apt-get problem...[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:02:38 +0200 François Patte wrote: > Le 24/10/2013 23:42, Scott Ferguson a écrit : > >> Unpacking libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0:amd64 (from > >> .../libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0_2%3a2.1.0-dmo2_amd64.deb) ... > >> dpkg: error processing > >> /var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0_2%3

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 10:35, François Patte a écrit : Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No We cannot help with problems caused by third party repos

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 06:44, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If they can, then they are not only WM. Plus, tiling window managers usually does not have any "desktop" and

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered > > > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals u

Re: out to get out of an apt-get problem...[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread François Patte
Le 24/10/2013 23:42, Scott Ferguson a écrit : > On 25/10/13 04:42, François Patte wrote: >> Bonsoir, >> >> trying to overwrite >> '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmjpegutils-2.1.so.0.0.0', which is also in >> package libmjpegutils-2.0-0 1:2.1.0+debian-1 ^^^ >> Unpackin

Re: another dependency question[solved]

2013-10-26 Thread François Patte
Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No > > We cannot help with problems caused by third party repositories. A > search via google regardin

Re: another dependency question

2013-10-26 Thread François Patte
Le 26/10/2013 08:02, Chris Bannister a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 05:56:17PM +0200, François Patte wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> I needed to install acroread and I did from deb-multimedia repo. No > > We cannot help with problems caused by third party repositories. A > search via google regardin

firmware installation

2013-10-26 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, I'd like to know if it is possible to install some firmware in the 3.2 kernel but from the 2.6 session ? I need to install some firmwares to make the 3.2 kernel works on my machine but I can only access the computer when the 2.6.35 is loaded : when the 3.2 is loaded my mouse and keyboard are