On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 > > > Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > > > > > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > > >> and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The > > >> sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". > > >> > > >> The net result is the church receives no tax moneys. Our > > >> particular fellowship tends to shy away from any offer that has > > >> even the appearance of government support. > > > > > > That's not strictly true: > > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/30/opinion/using-tax-dollars-for-churches.html> > > > > > > Cybe R. Wizard > > > > > > > I do believe you are proving my point that there is an ongoing > > debate. > > It is explicitly labeled as an opinion piece. > > I disagree with the author. > > I can't speak for the USA, but in Germany we've got so called 1€ jobs. > The unemployed get not enough money for a living and they must work for > e.g. church schools for child care. > > So a regular full payed job gets lost by this slave job. The parents > have to pay for the child care, so the money is there, the church has > got money, so the money is available, but the church prefers to keep > those people jobless by using them as slaves. The advantage are not only > the costs, the jobless person doing a full job can't go to the > Employment Tribunal to sue the employer, if something (else) should be > bad. > > The institution church in Germany does not have any sense for ethics.
I know a lesbian, she worked for a church kindergarten, a regular job, but she needed to hide her relationship with another women, otherwise they would have fired her. If other employers would fire gay people in Germany, they would run into serious trouble, it's the church only who is allowed to violate the law that much. Some religions in Germany are allowed to mutilate genitals of male babies and young boys. Try to do this, if you are not member of such a religion in Germany. However, not all members of religions agree with those crimes, some simply believe in a god and want to help other people and don't participate in doing those violations of human rights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382795970.656.168.camel@archlinux
