Hi,
Thanh Le Tran Ngoc wrote:
> I tried many tools and ways to parse Debian 12 stable into bootable device
Did you put a Debian Live ISO onto a USB stick ?
If not USB stick: What else stores the live ISO ?
Which ISO image did you download ? (Exact URL please.)
> It only see boot devic
On 01.06.2025 20:39, Thanh Le Tran Ngoc wrote:
Hi Debian team,
I tried many tools and ways to parse Debian 12 stable into bootable
device but motherboard cannot detect boot device. In other laptop like
Dell, it can detect that boot without any issues.
It only see boot device if I turn off
Hi Debian team,
I tried many tools and ways to parse Debian 12 stable into bootable device
but motherboard cannot detect boot device. In other laptop like Dell, it
can detect that boot without any issues.
It only see boot device if I turn off secure boot, fast boot and turn on
CSM support with
e-art.
Thanks
I do not understand why a subscription to the announce list
(https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/debian-announce) would not suffice.
That's certainly something that could be asked during the installer. We
already ask people if they'd like to join the Popularity Contes
On 1/6/25 03:50, John Scott wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking to help a couple people I know personally get up and running with
Debian very soon, and I hope to help many more. Speaking from experience, my
primary concern is that Debian on the desktop does not notify users at all when
a new relea
John Scott wrote:
> I'm looking to help a couple people I know personally get up and running with
> Debian very soon, and I hope to help many more. Speaking from experience, my
> primary concern is that Debian on the desktop does not notify users at all
> when a new release is
Hi,
I'm looking to help a couple people I know personally get up and running with
Debian very soon, and I hope to help many more. Speaking from experience, my
primary concern is that Debian on the desktop does not notify users at all when
a new release is made or when the current relea
Hello,
I tried to send you an email.
It looks as though have sent you a cancelled email not the one Ijust
tried to send.
I'll type the message I meant to end.
Sorry if this has caused confusion.
Please expect the correct email as soon as i get it retype dated
30May2025.
Regards
Donald MacKinn
Timothy M Butterworth writes:
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
>
>> Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
>> > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I
>> > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upg
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 05:52:40PM CEST, Timothy M Butterworth
said:
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I
> > > did a upgrade from
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I
> > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The
> upgrade
> > went through but after I
Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I
> did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The upgrade
> went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries in KDE's
> application launcher
On Tue, 27 May 2025 at 23:37, Timothy M Butterworth
wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie.
> I did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The
> upgrade went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries i
Hello,
Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I
did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The upgrade
went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries in KDE's
application launcher. I created a new account of the device a
On 5/26/25 13:02, David Wright wrote:
On Mon 26 May 2025 at 10:11:50 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
Now I connect a SATA to USB adapter cable to a 2.5" SATA SSD and
install Debian onto the SSD:
https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/usb3s2sat3cb
Can you boot it on both BIOS and EFI mac
On Mon 26 May 2025 at 10:11:50 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 5/26/25 01:32, riveravaldez wrote:
> > Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages I
> > need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
> > can use
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:11:50AM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 5/26/25 01:32, riveravaldez wrote:
> > Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages I
> > need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
> > can use
El lunes, 26 de mayo de 2025, Richard Owlett escribió:
> On 5/26/25 3:32 AM, riveravaldez wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages
I
>> need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
>> can use
On 5/26/25 01:32, riveravaldez wrote:
Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages I
need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
can use in any desktop/laptop) with persistence and some way to upgrade it
when next Stable gets published
On 5/26/25 3:32 AM, riveravaldez wrote:
Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages I
need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
can use in any desktop/laptop) with persistence and some way to upgrade it
when next Stable gets published
Hi, I would like to make a minimal Debian Stable -with only the packages I
need- available as a LiveUSB bootable system (nomadic, USB-stick, which I
can use in any desktop/laptop) with persistence and some way to upgrade it
when next Stable gets published. Is there a standard procedure to achieve
ons] source value 7 is obsolete and will be removed in a
> > future release
> > warning: [options] target value 7 is obsolete and will be removed in a
> > future release
> > warning: [options] To suppress warnings about obsolete options, use
> > -Xlint:-options.
> >
java
> src/coffee/source/helloworld/R.java
> warning: [options] source value 7 is obsolete and will be removed in a
> future release
> warning: [options] target value 7 is obsolete and will be removed in a
> future release
> warning: [options] To suppress warnings about obsolete optio
and I can't figure out how to get the dx command, because on my Debian
Bookworm system there is no such command!
Can this problem be solved so that I can access on my system only
Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian?
dx is deprecated, you should use d8
ease
warning: [options] To suppress warnings about obsolete options, use
-Xlint:-options.
3 warnings
[ -e dex ] || mkdir dex
/usr/lib/android-sdk/build-tools/debian/dx --dex --verbose
--min-sdk-version=19 --output=dex/classes.dex src
make: /usr/lib/android-sdk/build-tools/debian/dx: No such file or
Hello,
I know there is already a similar thread, I did not want to hijack it,
since the topic is slightly different.
Debian currently provides all tools required for creating an apk (and I
assume also an aar).
Unfortunately it seems to be missing one tool for creating an aab:
bundletool
On 2025-05-22, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Greg wrote:
>> On 2025-05-20, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It seems you've encountered an obsolete wiki page (at the bottom it
>> > says "AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps (las
Greg wrote:
> On 2025-05-20, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk
> wrote:
> >
> > It seems you've encountered an obsolete wiki page (at the bottom it
> > says "AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps (last modified 2022-10-31
> > 14:03:10)" ). The subject is being
On 2025-05-21, Csányi Pál wrote:
>
>> Please do update the wiki so that when I (and others) come to do the
>> same (which I'm planning to do soon) we can benefit from your learning.
"Update the wiki" can be interpreted in so many number of ways, particularly
by the anal-retentive; FWIW I don't fi
On 2025-05-20, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
>
> It seems you've encountered an obsolete wiki page (at the bottom it
> says "AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps (last modified 2022-10-31
> 14:03:10)" ). The subject is being discussed in another thread at the
> mom
f all these softwares reopening at
> boot for good ?
>
>
> Thanks by advance,
>
> Jeff
>
What Desktop Environment are you using?
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Hello folks ^^)
I've a little problem that's bugging me : each time I reboot my machine
I have all sort of stuff that open open (multiple Dolphin, firefox, etc...)
but all this was closed thoroughly before reboot, and the
'.config/session/' folder completely emptied.
before, emptying this
t írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20.,
> K, 11:13):
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android
> apps.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would follow the advice on these websites:
> >>>> ht
i Pál wrote:
Csányi Pál ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20., K, 11:13):
Hi,
on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android apps.
I would follow the advice on these websites:
https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools
and
https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps
Followin
ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20., K, 14:35):
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 02:01:34PM +0200, Csányi Pál wrote:
> > Csányi Pál ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20., K,
> > 11:13):
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating s
ectly from
> > https://developer.android.com/tools/releases/platform-tools , and from there
> > download a SDK.
>
> I have asked the help of an AI a month ago to let me compile a new
> Android app on Debian with pure command line, these are the notes I
> took:
>
> sud
Csányi Pál wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android
> apps.
>
> I would follow the advice on these websites:
> https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools
> and
> https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps
>
> F
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 04:24:46PM +0300, Roland Mueller wrote:
> At least for Ubuntu 22.04 android-sdk-platform-23 is in the list of
> available packages.
>
> $ apt list android-sdk\*
> ...
> android-sdk-platform-23/jammy,jammy 6.0.1+r72-6 all
> ...
For Debian, it see
At least for Ubuntu 22.04 android-sdk-platform-23 is in the list of
available packages.
$ apt list android-sdk\*
...
android-sdk-platform-23/jammy,jammy 6.0.1+r72-6 all
...
ti 20.5.2025 klo 13.16 Csányi Pál (csanyi...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
> Hi,
>
> on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 02:01:34PM +0200, Csányi Pál wrote:
> Csányi Pál ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20., K, 11:13):
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android apps.
> >
> > I would follow the advice on thes
a SDK.
I have asked the help of an AI a month ago to let me compile a new
Android app on Debian with pure command line, these are the notes I
took:
sudo apt-get install google-android-cmdline-tools-19.0-installer
google-android-emulator-installer
sdkmanager "platforms;android-34" "buil
On 20/05/2025 09:01, Csányi Pál wrote:
Well, then, what is the solution to this problem?
It is important that I follow the goal stated on the above website:
"building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools
already available in Debian."
You're really making
Csányi Pál ezt írta (időpont: 2025. máj. 20., K, 11:13):
>
> Hi,
>
> on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android apps.
>
> I would follow the advice on these websites:
> https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools
> and
> https://wiki.debian.org/And
Brieuc Desoutter ezt írta (időpont: 2025.
máj. 20., K, 12:02):
>
> Hum how about installing Jetbrains Android studio (via the jetbrains toolbox
> https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/)
>
> It will take care of downloading all the necessary tools, frameworks and
> emulator for you…
But I want to
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 01:02:35PM +0300, Brieuc Desoutter wrote:
> Hum how about installing Jetbrains Android studio (via the jetbrains
> toolbox
> https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/)
It has a funny license, though. Source is free, binaries aren't.
Cheers
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Hum how about installing Jetbrains Android studio (via the jetbrains
toolbox
https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/)
It will take care of downloading all the necessary tools, frameworks and
emulator for you…
On Tue, 20 May 2025 at 12:30 Csányi Pál wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on the Debian 12
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 11:08:28AM +0200, Csányi Pál wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android apps.
>
> I would follow the advice on these websites:
> https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools
> and
> https://wiki.debian.org/Androi
Hi,
on the Debian 12 Bookworm operating system I want to make android apps.
I would follow the advice on these websites:
https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools
and
https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps
Following the latter web page, the following command cannot be
executed on
about
with partitions. I've been using LVM since 1995 ... in fact before I
was using it on Linux and Debian,
so it's very stable, works very well, and has been around a very long
time. Easier to set that up initially,
rather than after-the-fact, but one can also change later. E.g.
y
On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 3:22 PM Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> On May 19, 2025, Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 8:03 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 19:51:04 -0400, Lee wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> >
On May 19, 2025, Lee wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 8:03 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 19:51:04 -0400, Lee wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> >
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 8:03 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 19:51:04 -0400, Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > > > Since I know almost no shell scripting,
On 5/18/25 09:47, Default User wrote:
Hi, OP again.
1) Regarding:
"Its unclear to me from OP's message whether OP actually wants to solve
the partition sizing issue or is just complaining about it and THEN
asking for unrelated Debian 13 upgrade tips."
I originally posted ask
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 9:46 PM Default User
wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
> Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
> (2023) low-end Dell laptop.
> Intel Core i3 processor.
> 8Gb ram.
> UEFI booting.
> Internal nvme SS
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 19:51:04 -0400, Lee wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > > Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A
> > > to usb drive B copy is done with a simpl
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A
> > to usb drive B copy is done with a simple bash script consisting
> > only of the rsync backup command, wi
Thanks, Andy!
I'll give it a try.
The Windows Button on Panel no longer honors the "Show Windows From All
Monitors" when it is checked OFF for at least the
evolution email package.
Hi,
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A
> to usb drive B copy is done with a simple bash script consisting
> only of the rsync backup command, with options and parameters, but
> without any code to verify t
Hi, OP again.
1) Regarding:
"Its unclear to me from OP's message whether OP actually wants to solve
the partition sizing issue or is just complaining about it and THEN
asking for unrelated Debian 13 upgrade tips."
I originally posted asking for general advice about upgradi
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:26:21PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-05-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >
> > I found it easiest to just run the installer and say - use LVM, all files
> > in one partition.
>
> Is there no rapidity cost on lower-end machines?
>
IME, there is not a cost that can be dete
On 2025-05-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> I found it easiest to just run the installer and say - use LVM, all files
> in one partition.
Is there no rapidity cost on lower-end machines?
> that give you a boot partition and everything else in one partition.
>
> It Just Works (for high values of
On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 03:16:53PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:56:11PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > Concerning the points raised:
>
> I still did not see any statement of which concrete problems or issues
> you did actually want to tackle. For example it is a w
Hi,
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:56:11PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> Concerning the points raised:
I still did not see any statement of which concrete problems or issues
you did actually want to tackle. For example it is a waste of time
people giving advice about the upgrade route if you have deci
Default User writes:
> 1) sudo df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/nvme0n1p2 23G 8.7G 13G 41% /
> /dev/nvme0n1p5 1.8G 140K 1.7G 1% /tmp
Why not enable tmp.mount (tmpfs)? In most use cases, /tmp is not really
utilized much – pointless to waste 2 GB of valua
On 2025-05-16, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
>> /var can grow significantly over time due to logs, databases, and other
>> persistent services, so I can understand why someone might put it on its
>> own partition.
>
> When we're talking about
"root and home"
solution would be ~12 GB and ~53 GB (respectively).
I should have asked previously -- what is filling up /var? Have you
fixed it? The following commands can remove obsolete Debian packages:
# apt-get autoremove
# apt-get autoclean
2) I could re-partition with C
xuser writes:
> No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it.
As I recall, Intel has played with virtualization support a lot. Disable
virtualization on some low end CPUs just to piss people off. Or really,
to "differentiate the different product lines" or some such marketing
bullshit.
On Fri, 16 May 2025 18:56:11 -0400
Default User wrote:
> Fun fact: I use rsync to do backups to and external usb hard drive. If
> the external drive is not connected, rsync will, without any notice,
> proceed to create a backup directory under /media, with the name of
> the unconnected backup dri
/nvme0n1p1 511M 61M 451M 12% /boot/efi
(df does not show nvme0n1p4, which is the swap partition, 1Gb.)
/var, now at at 34% used, was just trimmed down from about 67%,
several days ago.
2) I could re-partition with Clonezilla and/or use rsync/Gparted from a
Debian Live usb stick. But I
ion sizing issue or is just complaining about it and THEN
asking for unrelated Debian 13 upgrade tips. Trying to solve the
partition size problem during an upgrade (not a reinstall) seems like
hard work. If you really had to, I'd try that before or after upgrade.
As regards the upgrade itself I
On Fri, 16 May 2025 11:50:41 +0100
Richmond wrote:
>
> Recently I created a virtual machine with qemu and virt-manager, and
> unknown to me by default it creates the virtual disk in /var. As this
> was not on its own partion but in the same as / it happily filled the
> root partition and I got in
No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it.
On Thu, 15 May 2025, Default User wrote:
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 17:30:51 -0400
From: Default User
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Preparing for Debian 13
Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:31:19 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user
Roberto C. Sánchez writes:
> It's a bit late at this point, but why did you split your installation
> into different partitions, fixed partitions no less, on a laptop with a
> single disk? That's the sort of thing you do with a server where you
> have RAID, LVM, and possibly other advanced storag
On Fri, 16 May 2025 09:34:30 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
> > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
>
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
> Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
> (2023) low-end Dell laptop.
> Intel Core i3 processor.
> 8Gb ram.
> UEFI booting.
> Int
Default User writes:
> Since Debian 13 should soon be released, what should I be doing
> ahead of time to prepare for the upgrade? For me, upgrading is
> always a major hassle, so I try to make it as easy as possible.
The release page is here: https://www.debian.org/release
On 5/15/25 14:30, Default User wrote:
Hi.
I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
(2023) low-end Dell laptop.
Intel Core i3 processor.
8Gb ram.
UEFI booting.
Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for mass storage.
Partitions:
nvme0n1 259:0
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
> Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
> (2023) low-end Dell laptop.
> Intel Core i3 processor.
> 8Gb ram.
> UEFI booting.
> Int
Hi.
I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.
Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current
(2023) low-end Dell laptop.
Intel Core i3 processor.
8Gb ram.
UEFI booting.
Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for mass storage.
Partitions:
nvme0n1 259:00 238.5G 0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1
>>>>> Tim Woodall :
>> What is Potato? Is that about 3.0, or 3.1?
> Yes. It's 2.2 from 2000.
Wow! Talk about blast from the past!
Potato was my first debian version.
I created a netboot floppy for potato and used it to install debian on
several computers, downlo
On 2025-05-11, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> This thread is a waist of time!
>>
> Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
It's a pretty hip saying.
> Cheers
> Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
>
>
>
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 10:48:55AM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
For a futile attempt at correcting topic drift, I commented about
laptops and their displays. So how many laptops do you have with a 16:10
aspect display and from which decade are they from? I know of exactly
one model from this decade
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 06:29:58AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:55:30PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
This is simple: if you have a 7 year old machine, find someone throwing out
a 4 year old machine, take it, and throw out the 7 year old machine instead.
Refusing to ta
On 2025-05-12, David Christensen wrote:
> On 5/11/25 12:55, Michael Stone wrote:
>> The issue isn't finding the availability of potentially
>> useful machines that get trashed, the issue is that there isn't an
>> efficient market for getting those machines to people who can use them.
>
>
> In ye
; The issue isn't finding the availability of potentially useful machines
> that get
> > trashed, the issue is that there isn't an efficient market for getting
> those
> > machines to people who can use them.
>
I purchase refurbished equipment regularly. I use https:/
Eben King writes:
> On 5/11/25 08:46, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Stefan Monnier writes:
>> It does seem like the slightly longer 16:10 screens are making a
>> comeback, at least in the Thinkpad T16.
>
> Two of my monitors have that aspect ratio.
Well, why not, let's ramble on about loosely related
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 03:55:30PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
[...]
> > The embedded cost in older machines has amortised over a longer
> > period.
>
> What are you even talking about?
Longer life: you divvy up the manufacturing (and shipping, and...) over
a longer time.
> > I don't follow yo
On 5/11/25 12:55, Michael Stone wrote:
The issue isn't finding the availability of potentially
useful machines that get trashed, the issue is that there isn't an
efficient market for getting those machines to people who can use them.
In years past, I bought used computers and components via c
Get a life!
On 5/11/2025 12:37 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
[snip]
This thread is a waist of time!
Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Cheers
Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
Hi,
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 04:37:08PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
> > This thread is a waist of time!
> >
> Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Some people just like to explore the pant leg less travelled
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 05:58:43PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:02:26AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:55:07PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any
> more, but it usually makes sens
On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote:
[snip]
>
> This thread is a waist of time!
>
Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings.
Cheers
Eike KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
in the end I just keep
>>>>> using the T61.
Next in thread, above is all Greg quoted.
>> Some attribution is missing here. Who wrote about the X1 above?
> Looks like Stephan Monnier.
That's the problem apparently caused by absent attribution. Monnier wrote:
<https:/
On 5/11/25 12:05, Felix Miata wrote:
Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 10:02 (UTC-0400):
On 5/11/25 Anssi Saari wrote:
Stefan Monnier wrote:
FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
batter
Eben King composed on 2025-05-11 10:02 (UTC-0400):
> On 5/11/25 Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
>>> old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
>>> battery life, much lighter, much s
On 5/11/25 08:46, Anssi Saari wrote:
Stefan Monnier writes:
FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
battery life, much lighter, much smaller pixels), it wasn't terribly
faster, and it suffe
On 2025-05-10, Thomas Dineen wrote:
> In love with old hardware?
>
> Have you getting a rescue cat or dog? Get a life!!!
I had two rescue cats, but when they died it hurt so much I don't
want to go through that again.
Stefan Monnier writes:
> FWIW, I tried a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen5 (2017) as a replacement for my
> old T61, and while it does come with some notable improvements (longer
> battery life, much lighter, much smaller pixels), it wasn't terribly
> faster, and it suffered from a shorter screen, so in th
On 2025-05-10, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> installing any even remotely current release of Debian (or any other
>> kind of *nix) on hardware over a decade old probably doesn't have much
>> practical benefit, and is more of an exercise in seeing
>> what's possi
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