Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-19 Thread tomas
m is that the free drivers - which > are essentially all that Debian can ship - are less functional than the > proprietary drivers shipped by Brother. Exactly. The bug /is/ the proprietary driver. I wouldn't buy such a printer. In fact, I've looked at some and decided I don't need

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
ce, CUPS is probably *not* broken. The problem is that the free drivers - which are essentially all that Debian can ship - are less functional than the proprietary drivers shipped by Brother. You have a Brother printer, you have the choice of which drivers to install. [And never forget, it was th

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-18 Thread gene heskett
On 4/16/25 03:14, Erwan David wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 03:16:29AM CEST, Lee said: On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:27 AM Dan Purgert wrote: On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: I wrote: If you sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others Actually, if you follow the discussion, the C

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-16 Thread Eben King
configuration tool")on XFCE 4.18 on Debian 12.10.

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-16 Thread Lee
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 1:32 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:57 PM Lee wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 11:38 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > > >> My laptop has one to two handful of these, depending on what I'm > > > >> currently playing with. > > > > I taking a cl

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-16 Thread Lee
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 5:37 AM Erwan David wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 03:16:29AM CEST, Lee said: > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:27 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > > > I wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you > > > > >sudo systemctl disable cups # a

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-16 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 03:16:29AM CEST, Lee said: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:27 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > > I wrote: > > > > > > > If you > > > >sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others > > > > > > Actually, if you follow the discussion, t

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-16 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-04-15, Lee wrote: > If I turn the cups service back on I can print: > > $ sudo systemctl start cups.service > > $ lp -d Canon_MG3600_series check-for-updates.sh > request id is Canon_MG3600_series-4 (1 file(s)) cupsd should listen on ports but only on localhost: # ss -nltup | grep cups t

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:57 PM Lee wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 11:38 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > >> My laptop has one to two handful of these, depending on what I'm > > >> currently playing with. > > > I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups > > > ports op

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-15 Thread Lee
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:27 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > I wrote: > > > > > If you > > >sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others > > > > Actually, if you follow the discussion, the CUPS Bonjour auto-discovery > > > >- it presumably handled by t

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-15 Thread Lee
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 11:38 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> My laptop has one to two handful of these, depending on what I'm > >> currently playing with. > > I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups > > ports open .. which I'm not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:20:34PM -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > What systemd dependencies? :-) Thanks for reminding us that Debian is (more or less) viable without systemd (I try to keep my daily driver that way, too). But the original poster has another, valid concern. I think the b

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Paoli
ation: Note that systemd doesn't require systemd-sysv (systemd's Explanation: init system). Package: systemd Pin: version * Pin-Priority: -1 # On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:12 AM Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > Hello, > > systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 03:08:11PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > please take all that precedes with a grain of salt: I do not install and set > up ssh servers :-) All input is welcome, thank you.

Re: Debian

2025-04-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Worse than that, if this is the original netgear "firmware", I have no idea > how close to a normal debian system it ever was, what the actual hardware > is, or whether that hardware is supported by debian itself (vs only with > netgear modifications). A quick google sug

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > I wrote: > > > If you > >sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others > > Actually, if you follow the discussion, the CUPS Bonjour auto-discovery > >- it presumably handled by the cups-browsed package > (you can uninstall it, or systemctl di

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread didier gaumet
Le 14/04/2025 à 13:57, Marc SCHAEFER a écrit : Hello, Yes! On the (dynamic) dependancy side it seems ideal. So it means it's a reimplementation of the SSH server, not using libssh? (or it's statically compiled, which could be worse?) libssh does not appear in the build-dependencies of the sou

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
I wrote: > If you >sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others Actually, if you follow the discussion, the CUPS Bonjour auto-discovery - it presumably handled by the cups-browsed package (you can uninstall it, or systemctl disable it, if you don't want printer auto-detection

cups-browsed installed and open by default (was: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd)

2025-04-14 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
ur local printers available through Bonjour (a broadcast discovery protocol). It might be that cups-browsed IS installed by default and open to the world on Debian installations?

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-14 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 06:24:50PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > didier@hp-notebook14:~$ ldd /usr/sbin/tinysshd > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffdb29f7000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f54a996c000) > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f54a9c2e000) >

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/04/2025 07:16, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote: I performed some very basic testing using a Debian 12.8.0 Live CD. Likely nobody will be interested in minor bugs for versions released a couple of years ago. At current moment it is better to try trixie weekly builds. Upstream developers

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/04/2025 06:52, Lee wrote: I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups ports open .. which I'm not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf printing ability. It's nice being able to print when I'm at home. I don't know how to turn this stuff off when I'm not at hom

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Lee
27;m not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf > > printing ability. > > Why do you need cups ports open to print? I have no idea. I don't remember doing anything with cups. I installed Debian and this is what I got. It's nice being able to print when I'm at home. I

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 13 Apr 10:38 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> My laptop has one to two handful of these, depending on what I'm > >> currently playing with. > > I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups > > ports open .. which I'm not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf > >

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/04/2025 à 17:13, Marc SCHAEFER a écrit : Hello, would you be open to using another implementation of an ssh server? If so, it would be a third approach: Yes, it would be. It might help with the attack surface issue of current sshd. However, I would guess that most of the alternative t

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> My laptop has one to two handful of these, depending on what I'm >> currently playing with. > I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups > ports open .. which I'm not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf > printing ability. Why do you need cups ports open to print? I

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, > would you be open to using another implementation of an ssh server? > If so, it would be a third approach: Yes, it would be. It might help with the attack surface issue of current sshd. However, I would guess that most of the alternative to OpenSSH are using libssh, which also had some

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 10:59:45AM -0400, Lee wrote: > I taking a class at the local library; my laptop has avahi and cups > ports open .. which I'm not thrilled about but I like the zero-conf > printing ability. If you sudo systemctl disable cups # and maybe others then, you can do

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-13 Thread Lee
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 10:48 AM wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:29:41AM -0400, Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:44 AM tomas wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > > > On 12/4/25 13:24, tomas wrote: > > > > > So, share your wisdo

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:29:41AM -0400, Lee wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:44 AM tomas wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > On 12/4/25 13:24, tomas wrote: > > > > So, share your wisdom with us: what makes ssh less secure than > > > > "a VPN

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread Lee
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:44 AM tomas wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 12/4/25 13:24, tomas wrote: > > > So, share your wisdom with us: what makes ssh less secure than > > > "a VPN"? > > > > > > It's quite simple. If you have a VPN exposed to the

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread didier gaumet
Le 11/04/2025 à 20:12, Marc SCHAEFER a écrit : Hello, systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot of library injections into sshd, much more than the stock OpenBSD ssh. To avoid this, there seem to be two approaches: - remove those dependancies (see below

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > sometimes, yes, I think [VPNs] are overblown compared to a "simple" > ssh server. I think that a decent modern VPN solution is much simpler than OpenSSH and especially when your alternative is recompiling OpenSSH to remove depen

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > Jumping into your interesting ssh vs VPN discussion: [...] Thanks for all those interesting details. To sum up, I'd concur with Andy in one point: *if* you are running a VPN anyway, it's better to hide you SSH behind th

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
brt.so.1 (0x7fa133eb4000) liblzma.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5 (0x7fa133e8c000) libzstd.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libzstd.so.1 (0x7fa133db1000) libgcrypt.so.20 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20 (0x7fa133c8f000) libgpg-error.so.0 =&g

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 01:32:06PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 12/4/25 13:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > So, share your wisdom with us: what makes ssh less secure than > > "a VPN"? > > > It's quite simple. If you have a VPN exposed to the internet and an ssh > service then you have two a

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread jeremy ardley
On 12/4/25 13:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: So, share your wisdom with us: what makes ssh less secure than "a VPN"? It's quite simple. If you have a VPN exposed to the internet and an ssh service then you have two attack surfaces in parallel. Breach either one and you breach the system If

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 07:59:40PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:12:14PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot > > of library injections into sshd, much more than

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-11 Thread jeremy ardley
On 12/4/25 11:27, Max Nikulin wrote: I had both running without conflicts on my old laptop with Ubuntu-20.04 LTS focal. I hope, Debian does not differ in this case. Just set what devices each daemon should ignore. Ethernet and WiFi were under control of NetworkManager (to have tray

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-11 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/04/2025 09:58, jeremy ardley wrote: The thing to remember is you can't have NetworkManager and systemd- networkd running at the same time. I had both running without conflicts on my old laptop with Ubuntu-20.04 LTS focal. I hope, Debian does not differ in this case. Just set

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-11 Thread jeremy ardley
On 12/4/25 08:16, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: The short version is that if the behavior with "Connect Automatically" and "Make available to other users"  is down to NetworkManager, then I sympathize with the suggestions to migrate from it to systemd-networkd. If someone could po

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-11 Thread coffeeforblood . pardon117
Thank you for the continued responses. I performed some very basic testing using a Debian 12.8.0 Live CD. The results were confusing and highlighted some issues with the creation of network profiles in general, at least from my point of view. The short version is that if the behavior with

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:12:14PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot > of library injections into sshd, much more than the stock OpenBSD ssh. > > To avoid this, there seem to be two approaches: > >

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:12:14PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: To solve this, I could use a Bastion host with a limited, non Debian, OS, or I could recompile the OpenSSH package on Debian with options disabled. I'd suggest just backporting the currrent version from sid rather than tryi

Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot of library injections into sshd, much more than the stock OpenBSD ssh. To avoid this, there seem to be two approaches: - remove those dependancies (see below) - confine the impact of those dependancies, as

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread Dan Ritter
here) > > To solve this, I could use a Bastion host with a limited, non Debian, > OS, or I could recompile the OpenSSH package on Debian with options > disabled. > > What do you think about this approach? It's fine, but it changes your methodology from "the Debian

Re: Debian

2025-04-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 03:27:10PM +, Andy Smith wrote: However, the release you're running (Debian 6 squeeze) went into limited lTS in 2014 and complete end of life in 2016. Packages for it don't exist any more on the regular Debian mirrors and would have to be obt

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2025 #289

2025-04-11 Thread Phillip Dreizen
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Re: Debian

2025-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 04:50:01PM +0200, Rafał Grzywacz wrote: > Hello, I'm using a netgear readynas duo v2 nas server running linux debian > squeeze 6.0.3, when I try to install packages is E:... e.g. > # sudo apt-get install curl > E: Could not perform immediate config

Debian

2025-04-11 Thread Rafał Grzywacz
Hello, I'm using a netgear readynas duo v2 nas server running linux debian squeeze 6.0.3, when I try to install packages is E:... e.g. # sudo apt-get install curl E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libc6'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure

Re: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland

2025-04-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/01/2025 16:06, Rafał Lichwała wrote: I cannot successfully set shared clipboard between host and guest machines when both run Wayland desktop. [...] So I cannot copy some text to clipboard on host machine and paste it on guest machine. [...] 1. On guest machine installed spice-vdagent p

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Apr 2025 at 21:34:42 (+0200), coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: > > > I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in, > > but the connection has not activated manually. > > > Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to >

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 09:34:42PM +0200, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be respected, in case there is a bug, or close this issue as solved? I'

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/04/2025 02:34, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote: I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in, but the connection has not activated manually. Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automat

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 8/4/25 11:18, Titus Newswanger wrote: FWIW, I generally don't get along with NetworkManager on server installations and end up uninstalling it and running either systemd-networkd or netplan. I just got done with a server install where the network was not coming up until after I logged into

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-07 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 4/7/25 14:34, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be respected, in case there is a bug, or close this issue as solved? I'm happy either way. FW

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-07 Thread hlyg
ed by "efibootmgr -v". Do you have a partition with EFI/debian/*.efi files? Sorry, i use wrong word, it is POST, not boot: if i press F12 during POST (when dell logo is shown) ... efibootmgr isn't installed, no efi partition

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-07 Thread coffeeforblood . pardon117
> I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in, but > the connection has not activated manually. > Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be respected, in case there

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread Max Nikulin
you have a partition with EFI/debian/*.efi files?

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250404)

2025-04-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 10:54:48 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > >> * If you are replying to a post, please … cut out extra text that > >> is not relevant to your point. > >> While you are commenting on Mr. Cater's FAQ, it would be nice to pay attention to it. -- Does anybody read signatures any more

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread hlyg
to Max Nikulin: perhaps my optiplex is quite old, it hasn't uefi compatibility mode though i have installed latest version in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250404)

2025-04-06 Thread Will Mengarini
* Jeffrey Walton [25-04/05=Sat 00:52 -0400]: > Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject. Or a diff. > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:47 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >> Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, >&g

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 21:54, hlyg wrote: i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work [...] how to remove them? I am curious which way you boot Debia

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-05 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:17 PM wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2025 at 11:56 PM Lee wrote: > > > Can you try it with Make available to other users ON > > Toggling "Make available to other users" to ON solves the problem! First I > tested this with the built-in Ethernet adapter. After this was successf

Re: Installing old Debian releases

2025-04-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, keller.st...@gmx.de wrote: > For comparison, some research and portability tests I'd like > to install old releases of Debian, i.e. versions 8, 9, 10. > Are there archives and old repositories to install from? Old installation and Live ISOs are at https://cdimage.debian.org/

Debian repository -- any well documented PDF to HTML converters?

2025-04-05 Thread Richard Owlett
rception issues I find it more comfortable to work wit HTML documents than PDF. As my default OS is Debian 12.8, I used Synaptic to search for a conversion utility. Found that poppler-utils { supplying pdftohtml } was installed. Used a sparse man-page [ https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/

Re: libsmbios/smbios-utils removed from Debian?

2025-04-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Václav Ovsík wrote: > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1626825/removed-243-2-from-unstable/ > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libsmbios > [...] > I am surprised the smbios-utils is removed from unstable. https://tracker.debian.org/news/1626825/removed-243-2-from-unstable/ links to the discuss

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250404)

2025-04-05 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-05, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject. > We're all waiting for Gene to put "SOLVED" on his never-ending network of threads. But what would it would mean or communicate to future anthropologists remains yet another puzzle left to the

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 6:02 AM hlyg wrote: > > i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show > > under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian > > but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work > > most probably they

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-04-05, Hans wrote: > Maybe for someione interesting: As I also have Windows on my drive, there is > an entry for Windows. I deleted this, because then I only have the entry > "debian". And this is tarting grub, which got an entry for Windows. > Dunno, if this is

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
Thank Hans! it is really Dell issue. i follow your instruction, it works.

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 5. April 2025, 16:54:24 CEST schrieb hlyg: > i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show > > under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian > > but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work > > most prob

how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work most probably they are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks how to remove them?

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250404)

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Still missing a topic or discussion of "SOLVED" in the subject. On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:47 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > Codes of Conduct >

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 07:33, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote: I think there is still the question of why this setting must be ON for this to work properly. I followed the steps suggested by Max Nikulin and I think there is something interesting in the output of 'journalctl -f'. I do not think, GNOME ap

Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-04 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I would like to use the Perl module Digest::SHA256 on Debian: 2025-04-02 15:57:50 root@laalaa ~ # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.11 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.234-1 (2025-02-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2025-04-02 15:58:20 root@laalaa ~ # perl -v This is

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread coffeeforblood . pardon117
On Thu, Apr 4, 2025 at 11:56 PM wrote: > Can you try it with Make available to other users ON Toggling "Make available to other users" to ON solves the problem! First I tested this with the built-in Ethernet adapter. After this was successful I configured this to ON for the other adapters and

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread Lee
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:32 PM wrote: > > Background Information > === > > Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is > functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB > Ethernet adapters an

Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250404)

2025-04-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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Re: graphics card in debian

2025-04-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-19, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 19/3/25 11:04, tim wade wrote: >> >> How can I check the graphics card model of my computer and how can I >> test the floating-point computing capability of the graphics card? > > > sudo lspci -v | grep -A 1 -i "VGA compatible controller" I don't think

Re: Installing old Debian releases

2025-04-04 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пн, 31 мар. 2025 г. в 16:27, : > > For comparison, some research and portability tests I'd like > to install old releases of Debian, i.e. versions 8, 9, 10. > Are there archives and old repositories to install from? https://archive.debian.org and https://cdimage.debian.org/mirro

Re: Debian 12: /etc/updatedb.conf and it's man page are missing

2025-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
cate/updatedb. For a while there was "mlocate", but Steinar H. Gunderson wrote "plocate" as a much faster replacement. It's the de-facto recommended implementation of find/locate for Debian (but no find/locate implementation is Essential anymore) -- Please do not CC me for l

Installing old Debian releases

2025-04-04 Thread keller . steve
For comparison, some research and portability tests I'd like to install old releases of Debian, i.e. versions 8, 9, 10. Are there archives and old repositories to install from? Steve

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:19:08PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: Off Topic I just did a 1 year diploma in advanced networking. I couldn't even comprehend why the still had crossover cables in the lab. Perhaps to accommodate pre-2000 CISCO switches? cisco was one of the companies that was late to

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
y guess is that NetworkManager created another "Wired Connection..." when network adapter was discovered. It is marked as auto as well and tried earlier than your connection with a static address. Is it normal for 'systemd-networkd' not to be running by default on a fresh i

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/4/25 17:06, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I would not be surprised to learn that some inexpensive ethernet controllers lacked some features, like Auto MDI-X, since it is an optional feature of the 1000BASE-T standard. For 1000BASE-T I would be very surprised if that was the case as it uses all

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:52 AM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 4/4/25 09:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > It sounds like the client is connected directly to the server via > > ethernet, presumably without a cross-over ethernet cable. So both > > ethernet ports would need to auto-sense the configuration.

Re: Installing old Debian releases

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Paoli
Info can also be used for upgrading (much) older releases (notably older ones beyond both main and LTS support) On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:51 AM wrote: > For comparison, some research and portability tests I'd like > to install old releases of Debian, i.e. versions 8, 9, 10. > Are

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Paoli
(response bits in-line): On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 4:08 PM David Christensen wrote: > I would like to use the Perl module Digest::SHA256 on Debian: > # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a > 11.11 > Linux laalaa 5.10.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.234-1 (2025-02-24) > x86_64 GNU/Linux &

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:38:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... when a cable from the server is connected to the Ethernet port of a client device, the Debian server will automatically recognize the new physical connection and then automatically activate that connection. It

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/4/25 09:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: It sounds like the client is connected directly to the server via ethernet, presumably without a cross-over ethernet cable. So both ethernet ports would need to auto-sense the configuration. Can you run the same experiment with a hub or switch in between?

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:32 PM wrote: > > Background Information > === > > Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is > functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB > Ethernet adapters an

Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread coffeeforblood . pardon117
Background Information === Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB Ethernet adapters and a built-in Ethernet adapter. Ethernet cables are permanently inserted into

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/4/25 06:56, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: I noted that systemd-networkd service is not running by default. For testing purposes I enabled and started this service, but there was no improvement. systemd-networkd is a competitor to NetworkManager. You need to run one or the

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:56:05 +0200 (CEST) coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: > Is it normal for 'systemd-networkd' not to be running by default on a > fresh installation of Debian 12, as a general rule? I disabled it > again after troubleshooting this problem. Yes, i

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 6:38 AM wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > FWIW, it seems that the author of the older package has died. :( > You know I can't help it, every time I see something like that I think of Ian Murdock.

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > But installing libdigest-sha-perl does not provide Digest::SHA256: > > They are different modules. > > https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA256 > https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA > > Digest::SHA256

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > But installing libdigest-sha-perl does not provide Digest::SHA256: They are different modules. https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA256 https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA Digest::SHA256 appears to be much, much older and probabl

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-02 Thread David Christensen
On 4/2/25 16:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: But installing libdigest-sha-perl does not provide Digest::SHA256: They are different modules. https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA256 https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA Digest::SHA256 ap

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-04-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
time to explain long threads. > > > > > This might also be a good indicator that a [SOLVED] Problem ABC would > make a good final entry in a long thread. That sounds more theoretical than practical. "SOLVED" threads continue to run-on. "SOLVED" does not act as t

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