On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:09:06PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 4/16/25 03:14, Erwan David wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 03:16:29AM CEST, Lee <ler...@gmail.com> said:
> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:27 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> > > > On Apr 14, 2025, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:
> 
> Which brings up the fact that if cups-browsed is present, it disables the
> factory drivers which run my 2 brother printers flawlessly, every feature
> listed on the boxes Just Works,  with the cups flavor of cups drivers which
> are grossly broken and have been for a decade or more. I lose tray choice,
> color is weak and afu on my color inkjet and my B&W laser loses duplex and
> doesn't properly respond to a formfeed.
> 

Hi Gene,

This is probably off topic for the subject of the thread above but -

You always claim that stuff is grossly broken: in this instance, CUPS
is probably *not* broken. The problem is that the free drivers - which
are essentially all that Debian can ship - are less functional than the
proprietary drivers shipped by Brother. You have a Brother printer, you
have the choice of which drivers to install. [And never forget, it was
the problem of printing and non-free drivers that led Stallman to found
the Free Software Foundation - printers are getting better but almost all
contain non-free secret sauce].

If you think that Debian isn't doing enough, ask Brother if they can 
free the propriatary drivers / help Debian developers work out *exactly*
what's missing, or whatever, but maybe *do* something rather than always
complaining that other people aren't doing enough? Even if you get 
nothing much useful back from Brother, at least they will be aware that
there continues to be a user need for better free drivers and that Debian
users are paying for and using their printers rather than those from another
printer manufacturer so it's worth their continuing to support Linux. 

All the very best, as ever,

Andy
(amaca...@debian.org)

> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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