Re: Debian version

2021-11-11 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 09:22:25AM +, Koler, Nethanel wrote: > > I am Nati, I am trying to find a variable that is configured in the > > linux-headers that can tell me on which Debian I am > > This sounds like an X-Y problem. What's you

Re: Debian version

2021-11-09 Thread Linux-Fan
Koler, Nethanel writes: Hi I am Nati, I am trying to find a variable that is configured in the linux- headers that can tell me on which Debian I am Any reason for not using /etc/os-release instead? IIRC this one is available on RHEL _and_ Debian systems. For example in RedHat After download

Re: Debian version

2021-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
ht not have come from the Debian version that you're currently running. You might still be using a 4.x kernel on bullseye, for instance, due to incompatibility with one of your devices. Or you might be using a backported kernel from a future release because of hardware needs. > For ex

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 29 August 2016 20:45:21 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > /etc/debian_version coincidentally adds the minor > release Whatever the reason, it is very helpful to some of us that it does so, so long may it continue to do so!! :-) Thank you for the helpful explanation, Andrew. Lisi

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
>version is small. > > > > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > > > > >You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives > > >VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. > > > > Pascal Hambourg: > > > > >Thi

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
ge, which gives > >VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. > > Pascal Hambourg: > > >This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. > > That is irrelevant. M. Miata asked for a reason. M. Cater responded. > Either M. Cater is r

debian version ID

2016-08-29 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
- the absolute need for minor version is small. Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. Pascal Hambourg: This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. Th

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-11 Thread David Wright
14.04.5 LTS" > VERSION_ID="14.04" > HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/"; > SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/"; > BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"; > > /etc/lsb-release : > > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04 > D

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/08/2016 à 03:02, Seeker a écrit : On 8/9/2016 4:49 PM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 09 Aug 2016 at 13:27:34 (-0700), Seeker wrote: That was my first thought too, but looking up base-files for one of the LTS releases on packages.ubuntu.com and reading the change log, looks like to do updat

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-09 Thread Seeker
explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. You're going to have to explain it to the Ubuntu people, as well; because they follow what the manual says. Ubuntu 11.04

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-09 Thread David Wright
are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives > >>VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. > > > >This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. > > > >>You're going to have to explain it to the Ubunt

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-09 Thread Seeker
file. This is obviously not a Debian version. Rather looks like Ubuntu. You're going to have to explain it to the Ubuntu people, as well; because they follow what the manual says. Ubuntu 11.04 is a version based on year+month of release rather than a major+minor version. Ubuntu 11.04

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 09/08/2016 à 10:44, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard a écrit : Andrew M.A. Cater: /etc/os-release just contains major version You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. This is obviously not a Debian version

debian version ID

2016-08-09 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Andrew M.A. Cater: /etc/os-release just contains major version You are going to have to explain that to its manual page, which gives VERSION_ID=11.04 as an example of what can be in the file. You're going to have to explain it to the Ubuntu people, as well; because they follow what the manu

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-05 Thread Seeker
On 8/1/2016 1:53 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Ben Finney composed on 2016-08-01 03:20 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), why: 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release version as represent

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-01 Thread David Wright
etc/os-release is an outward-facing file designed for programs to find out what distribution of linux is running here. As far as they are concerned, each Debian version is a rolling release so the point number is meaningless. Why would you want it? /etc/debian_version is an inward-facing file for s

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Felix Miata writes: > Given the many possible options[1] for that file's content, one would > think there would be a way to get the extra detail in, maybe > VERSION_ID=8 and VERSION="8.5 (Jessie)", or move "Jessie" to > VERSION_CODENAME and put 8.5 as VERSION. I don't understand what you're aski

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-01 Thread Felix Miata
Ben Finney composed on 2016-08-01 03:20 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), why: 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release version as represented by /etc/debian_version The proximate

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 02:56:54AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), > why: > > 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release > version as represented by /etc/debian_version > /etc/os-release just

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-01 Thread Ben Finney
Felix Miata writes: > Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release > notes), why: > > 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point > release version as represented by /etc/debian_version The proximate explanation is: Because the API for that file is d

debian version ID

2016-07-31 Thread Felix Miata
Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), why: 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release version as represented by /etc/debian_version 2: 8.5 (as installed here on host gx62b) is not using the (LTS) 4.4 kernel -- "The wise are

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread John Hasler
berenger wrote: > Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion > and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that > they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. It is. The religious "right" has been trying to force compulsory christianity on

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-26, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_en_Alsace-Moselle > > Is that article available in English? My high school French of > >50 years ago is only good enough for the article to tease me. Apparently, that article is not available in English. Look her

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2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
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Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > > >> and ou

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/26/2013 5:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered using those

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > >> and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The > >> sound

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". The net result is the ch

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Curt wrote: On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. Well, even in France the waters

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit : In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". Really? I thought t

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and > government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be > honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong. > Well, even in France the waters may

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Zenaan Harkness wrote: [SNIP] The same software likely is available for Debian too, but I don't know if there are meta packages available too, I've been wanting to understand meta-packages for a personal project. Gives me one more assignment. If retirement isn't for learning and expanding ho

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in > and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The > sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". > > The net result is the church receives

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit : In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state". Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and tha

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered using those PCs as disk-less X term

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.10.2013 06:44, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If they can, then they are not only WM. Plus, tiling window managers usually does not have any "desktop" and

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered > > > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals u

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered > > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ? > > That might be easier to admin. > > And

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE &/or WM can handle that. > > Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;) Sorry, you are! > Any

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 06:14:20PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: > >>You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite > >>similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. > > > >Windows 98, XP e

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 10/25/13, Richard Owlett wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler >>> wrote: Richard Owlett writes: > > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > suitable than a cu

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-25, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Reading between the lines on that make me wonder how well the > things would run on the to be donated hardware. It also says > nothing about hardware required for the server. > Here you got hardware requirements: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Docume

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> > Richard Owlett writes: >> >> >> >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more >> >> suitable than a custom insta

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more suitable than a custom install of Debian No. Yes, ease of installation. pro Ub

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Luis, thank you for sharing this. Perhaps somebody can add additional related information. [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu [2] http://www.skolelinux.org [3] http://www.edubuntu.org/about http://www.skolelinux.org/images/stories/in_use/oslo/oslo6-lab_jpg_medium.jpg When I saw this photo I

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:12:33AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > Richard Owlett writes: > > >> > > >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > > >> suitable than a

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Tom H wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more suitable than a custom install of Debian No. Yes, ease of installation. "Ease of installation" comes at a cost. You get a system opt

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ? That might be easier to admin. And

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Luis Bandarra
Hi, On 10/24/2013 09:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of > a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a > "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated > hardware. Up to now the machines came w

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Andre Majorel wrote: On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old alike. That's what I already pointed out in

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.10.2013 11:38, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old alike. nowadays are used to their smart phone OSes and not Win 98 or XP

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-25, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the > ones doing the installing… What isn't a consideration? And don't call me Shirley. There's bottom posts and top posts and interleaved posts and orphaned posts in search of a parent

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE &/or WM can handle that. Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;) Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If they can, then they are not only WM. Plus, ti

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults > > kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old > alike. That's what I already pointed out in a previous

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered > > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ? > > That might be easier to admin. > > And you do

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old alike. > nowadays are used to their smart phone OSes and not Win 98 or XP and > likely new Windows PCs provide a

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ? > That might be easier to admin. And you donate the needed infrastructure for that? Keep the original post in

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Our church runs a once a week after school program for the > children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. > education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged > school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines > came

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:54 +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-24, Doug wrote: > >> > > You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite > > similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. > > I think on "obsolete" (possibly memory/ram restricted) hardware that >

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the ones doing the installing… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131025091536.ge23...@

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > Richard Owlett writes: > >> > >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > >> suitable than a custom install of Debian > > > > No. > > Yes, ease of installation. pro

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-24, Doug wrote: >> > You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite > similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. I think on "obsolete" (possibly memory/ram restricted) hardware that might be ill-advised. Anyway the desktop gui paradigm is ubi

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: >> >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more >> suitable than a custom install of Debian > > No. Yes, ease of installation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Doug
On 10/24/2013 06:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: >> You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite >> similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. > > Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different. > Xfce i

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated hardwa

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:14 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > What will children see on screen - hopefully no more than 5/6 icons. Good point, full ACK :). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different. Xfce is similar too and it might be bett

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote: > You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite > similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to. Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different. Xfce is similar too and it might be better for old PCs. At l

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Doug
On 10/24/2013 04:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Our church runs a once a week after school program for the > children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. > education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged > school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came >

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > > > suitable than a custom install of Debian - espec

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > > suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is > > a choice of kernels? > > Debian can be

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is > a choice of kernels? Debian can be used with older CPUs, than *buntus can. "All i486 and later proces

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more > suitable than a custom install of Debian No. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children > of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a > "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated > hardware. Up to now the ma

Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came with misc versions of MS Windows. A local company will d

Re: Debian Version for download 2.4

2010-12-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, culser1242 a écrit : > > do you know a link where I can down load an older Debian Version Image? <http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/> A repository is also available at <http://archive.debian.org/> > Linux DEB1 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005

Debian Version for download 2.4

2010-12-03 Thread culser1242
Dear sir/ mam do you know a link where I can down load an older Debian Version Image? Linux DEB1 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Porter
Don wrote: > On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:20 am, Adam Porter wrote: > When I read your email I realized I may not have been quite as clear > as > I should have been. I am curious as to what version of Debian I have > installed now. > > However here is the answer to your questions in case

Re: Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:10:37 + Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:20 am, Adam Porter wrote: > When I read your email I realized I may not have been quite as clear as > I should have been. I am curious as to what version of Debian I have > installed now. > >

Re: Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
cat /etc/debian_version Adam Porter wrote: Don wrote: Is there a quick and easy means of determining what "version" I have installed? What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? Anything in /etc/apt/preferences? -- Jerome BENOIT jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Don
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:20 am, Adam Porter wrote: When I read your email I realized I may not have been quite as clear as I should have been. I am curious as to what version of Debian I have installed now. However here is the answer to your questions in case that helps. The CD's l

Re: Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Adam Porter
Don wrote: > Is there a quick and easy means of determining what "version" I have > installed? What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? Anything in /etc/apt/preferences? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian version?

2006-01-03 Thread Don
I started with Woody CD's and after several months of operating and upgrading via APT-GET I simply am not sure what "version" I have in terms of Woody or Sarge. I know I have some of the Sarge files because I have seen the versions come across with sarge in the version numbering sequence. Is t

Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Lubos Vrbka
VMware Workstation 5 is running fine for me under Sarge on an AMD64 box. I've had zero problems with compiler versions and such. Also, which kernel version? I'm running a 2.6.8 kernel built from Debian sources. Configuration is stock except for turning off most sound support (I installed ALSA

Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread D. Michael McFarland
Mark Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can anyone recommend which version (stable, testing, unstable) I should > use as a host OS with VMWare 5? Debian will be the host OS and I'll > have a number of guest OS instances running under VMWare. VMware Workstation 5 is running fine for me under

Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
I've been running VMWare Workstation 5 under testing without any problems myself. The only issue is making sure gcc version used to compile the kernel matches so you can compile the modules necessary. At the current time I'm actually looking to get rid of VMWare except for running Windows XP an

which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Mark Hansen
Can anyone recommend which version (stable, testing, unstable) I should use as a host OS with VMWare 5? Debian will be the host OS and I'll have a number of guest OS instances running under VMWare. Also, which kernel version? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On 7/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you can downgrade. You use the pinning fuction of apt to set negative > pin numbers on packages. > > http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html You can downgrade, in the sense that nothing is impossible, however, it's very unlik

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Mike Fedyk
Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 04:30:11PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: security team.

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 04:30:11PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > security team. > >>> > >>> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ? > >> > >> I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Brian Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > security team. >>> >>> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ? >> >> I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade > from >> Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread michael
Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > security team. Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ? I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade from Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing or unstable. But there is no easy way to downgr

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:19:38PM +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > 2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > 2) how can i do it? > > > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or > > "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Thi

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun July 24 2005 12:19 pm, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > 2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > 2) how can i do it? > > > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or > > "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". > > Think twice bef

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Dubois
On Sunday 24 July 2005 12:15, Paolo Pantaleo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation > along the path: > stable->testing->unstable > > 1) can i do it? Yes. Before you do, read about security update policies for 'te

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2) how can i do it? > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or > "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Think > twice before going to testing (leading edge) or unstable (bleeding edge

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun July 24 2005 11:15 am, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation > along the path: > stable->testing->unstable > but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing > version > 1) can i do it? yes. > 2) how can i do it

Re: cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Lijftogt
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 20:15 +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation > along the path: > stable->testing->unstable > but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing version > 1) can i do it? > 2) how can i do it? I w

cahnging debian version

2005-07-24 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation along the path: stable->testing->unstable but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing version 1) can i do it? 2) how can i do it? Thnx PAolo

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