Re: [arch-general] Sick of xf86-video-intel? Use the framebuffer device!

2009-04-01 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 02:32:14 schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi: > Do you try with kernel option "video=intelfb:mode=NNxNN" (important! > without vga= option) don't work for you? > > Or vesafb is always loaded first, then when intelfb is loaded and it fails? Sure I did try. The kernel doc see

Re: [arch-general] Sick of xf86-video-intel? Use the framebuffer device!

2009-04-01 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 02:00:07 schrieb pyther: > Do you have any type of 3D rendering with the framebuffer X server? If so > what do you get in glxgears (yes I realize this is not a benchmark tool)? No, afaik fbdev does not support opengl. But that does not really matter because this chip

Re: [arch-general] problem with poweroff machine

2009-04-01 Thread arunix
Andrei Thorp wrote: > > Look into "sudo", that tends to be the standard way of elevating your > privilages temprorarily. > > -A"G"T > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:28 PM, 李业 wrote: >> You must be root when doing administrative job. Cannot cd into usb >> directory might because you are not in "s

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-04-01 Thread Andrei Thorp
It's not really a problem. -Garoth On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, arunix wrote: > >>Maybe get the X pid, then kill it with a TERM (15) or QUIT (3) signal >>will do the job. >>Give it a try. >>If you log from the console, you can logout too. This will end the >>graphic session, then you'll fall

Re: [arch-general] problem with poweroff machine

2009-04-01 Thread Andrei Thorp
Look into "sudo", that tends to be the standard way of elevating your privilages temprorarily. -A"G"T On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:28 PM, 李业 wrote: > You must be root when doing administrative job. Cannot cd into usb > directory might because you are not in "storage" group. Better to > read Beginner

Re: [arch-general] problem with poweroff machine

2009-04-01 Thread 李业
You must be root when doing administrative job. Cannot cd into usb directory might because you are not in "storage" group. Better to read Beginner Guide first if you are quite new to linux. Hope this helps. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:02 AM, arunix wrote: > > Hello All :-) > i am posting again boz

[arch-general] problem with poweroff machine

2009-04-01 Thread arunix
Hello All :-) i am posting again boz i m getting error due to i am (newbie) at linux.the problem is here i have a simple user john when i gave command for poweroff it shows like that [j...@arch ~]$ poweroff poweroff: . Same Error Came when i access "cd, Dvd, usb" you must be super user how can

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-04-01 Thread arunix
>Maybe get the X pid, then kill it with a TERM (15) or QUIT (3) signal >will do the job. >Give it a try. >If you log from the console, you can logout too. This will end the >graphic session, then you'll fall back to the console. i log from consol and gave the command startx after that i use X ad

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread DrCR
So are these last few posts code for the deal with AMD falling through? Bummer. Did we get a counter offer from Intel? Perhaps a switch to x86-only could be in order... On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Johannes Held wrote: >> Denis

Re: [arch-general] Sick of xf86-video-intel? Use the framebuffer device!

2009-04-01 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Pierre Schmitz wrote: > The problem is: you have to compile your own kernel. The stock kernel > provides the intelfb module but you cannot use it because vesafb is > compiled in. I did not find a way to work around this. As soon as you > start the kernel with a vga=XXX parameter vesafb gets load

Re: [arch-general] Sick of xf86-video-intel? Use the fram ebuffer device!

2009-04-01 Thread pyther
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:49:21 +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a proud user of an Intel 855GM chipset. Some time ago when the i810 > xorg dirver was replaced by the xf86-viedo-intel performance were > decreased from version to version and in the end it was unusable due to > too m

[arch-general] Sick of xf86-video-intel? Use the framebuffer device!

2009-04-01 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Hi all, I am a proud user of an Intel 855GM chipset. Some time ago when the i810 xorg dirver was replaced by the xf86-viedo-intel performance were decreased from version to version and in the end it was unusable due to too many bugs an problems. * support for tv-out was dropped (ok, not that i

Re: [arch-general] Orphan core

2009-04-01 Thread Baho Utot
Aaron Griffin wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Can someone please orphan core and extra so I can adopt it? Done Thanks I am going to port it to the i686 cpu

Re: [arch-general] Orphan core

2009-04-01 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> Can someone please orphan core and extra so I can adopt it? > > Done > Be fast to readopt them, or else Madonna or Angelina Jolie will do it first!! --

Re: [arch-general] Orphan core

2009-04-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > Can someone please orphan core and extra so I can adopt it? Done

[arch-general] Orphan core

2009-04-01 Thread Baho Utot
Can someone please orphan core and extra so I can adopt it?

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Johannes Held wrote: > Denis A. Altoé Falqueto : >> THAT is exactly the funny part! > Jap, that's for sure. > > But as I mentioned, the line between the funny part and insulting is very > thin. > > -- > Gruß, Johannes > Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst d

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Johannes Held
Denis A. Altoé Falqueto : > THAT is exactly the funny part! Jap, that's for sure. But as I mentioned, the line between the funny part and insulting is very thin. -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version signature.asc D

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Loui Chang
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 02:35:34PM -0500, kludge wrote: > leslie: fuck you and your macho-nerd, myth-of-progress bullshit. > > all the rest: i'm really upset with this decision. the basic > assumption that anyone who matters is spending money on new hardware is > fucked-up. I LOLed.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Johannes Held wrote: > I mean, every year - arch comes up with a good joke for fools day. Many people > notice the joke and keep on playing.. > But other.. ruggish words and bad replys occurs on our maillinglists.. THAT is exactly the funny part! -- -

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Johannes Held
Aaron Griffin : > Yeesh... date +"%m %d" Yeah the line between "hanging on the joke" and extremly bad behavoir is very thin. I mean, every year - arch comes up with a good joke for fools day. Many people notice the joke and keep on playing.. But other.. ruggish words and bad replys occurs on our

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, kludge wrote: > >>> Yeah, you better do. >>> >>> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's >>> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those >>> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redhat or something. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>>

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:51:34 +0200 Hubert Grzeskowiak wrote: > kludge wrote: > >>> Yeah, you better do. > >>> > >>> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's > >>> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those > >>> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redh

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Hubert Grzeskowiak
kludge wrote: >>> Yeah, you better do. >>> >>> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's >>> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those >>> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redhat or something. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>> >>> Leslie >>> >>> -- >>> LinkedIn

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Angel Velásquez
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, kludge wrote: > >>> Yeah, you better do. >>> >>> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's >>> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those >>> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redhat or something. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>>

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread BinkyTheClown
2009/4/1 kludge : > >>> Yeah, you better do. >>> >>> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's >>> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those >>> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redhat or something. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>> >>> Leslie >>> >>> -- >>> Li

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread kludge
>> Yeah, you better do. >> >> It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanished. Everyone who's >> still wanting it must be a weenie, and there's no place for those >> in the Arch philosophy -- go try Redhat or something. >> >> My 2 cents. >> >> Leslie >> >> -- >> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.link

Re: [arch-general] Adding LDFLAGS to /etc/makepkg.conf

2009-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bique
> Well i though it was implicit. > When you use -ftree-parallelize-loops=4, it enables OpenMP. > When gcc links, it needs to link against pthread and gomp. > That's why i added LDFLAGS="-lgomp". But i forgot -lpthread. So the error is "i can't find libgomp's symbols." -- Alexandre Bique

Re: [arch-general] HAL mount options

2009-04-01 Thread Edgar Kalkowski
Thanks for your reply! I already read through the wiki articles but exactly what I'm trying to achieve is not really mentioned. I tried to adapt one of the given solutions as described in my former post but that did not work as expected. Google also seems not to know any answer to this although

Re: [arch-general] Adding LDFLAGS to /etc/makepkg.conf

2009-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bique
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Alexandre Bique > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am trying these FLAGS: >> >> CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ftree-vectorize >> -ftree-parallelize-loops=4" >> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" >> >> And i need

Re: [arch-general] Adding LDFLAGS to /etc/makepkg.conf

2009-04-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Alexandre Bique wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying these FLAGS: > > CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ftree-vectorize > -ftree-parallelize-loops=4" > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" > > And i need to link to libgomp so i tried to add > > LDFLAGS="-lgomp" > > But

[arch-general] Adding LDFLAGS to /etc/makepkg.conf

2009-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bique
Hi, I am trying these FLAGS: CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ftree-vectorize -ftree-parallelize-loops=4" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" And i need to link to libgomp so i tried to add LDFLAGS="-lgomp" But it doesn't work. What should i do doctor ? Thanks. -- Alexandre Bique

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
On 2009-04-01 13:58 +0200, Rafa Grimán wrote: IIRC, Atom has the 220 and 330 models which are x86-64 compatible. So there's not much of an issue with Atom. Well, I don't care about those two, the N270 is most used Atom processor at the moment and neither this one nor the upcoming N280 support

Re: [arch-general] Make arch-announce read only?

2009-04-01 Thread Guilherme M. Nogueira
Great idea. -- Malformed message exception

Re: [arch-general] i686 build machines for rent

2009-04-01 Thread Pierre Chapuis
Le Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:20:13 +0200 (CEST), "Thomas Bohn" a écrit : > That is why Arch should drop x86_64 too. MMIX is the future! You're absolutely right. I'd love to port Arch to MMIX, who's with me? Of course we will have to port Pacman, the Linux kernel and make an actual hardware MMIX CPU b

Re: [arch-general] ArchLinux install CD for the blind, version 2!

2009-04-01 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. März 2009 14:54:20 schrieb Chris Brannon: >> I am proud to announce the second release of a modified ArchLinux install >> CD that includes spoken output for blind users. >> It is mostly equivalent to the official "ftp CD", bu

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Sergey Manucharian
Right now personally I use i686 Arch installed in Thinkpad R61, although, of course, I can use x86_64 . The reason is simple - 2 or 3 years ago I tried x86_64 (with AMD box), but found no performance improvement. More over, e.g. videoencoding with mencoder was SLOWER than under i686. I've found tha

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread RedShift
Rafa Grimán wrote: For x86 based models, I guess we'll have to switch for the time being to another distro, which IMHO isn't too much of an issue. Sooner or later we'll have to switch over to x86-64 based systems since x86 is used on old hardware: hard to get replacements, doesn't scale, less

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Rafa Grimán
Hi All :) El Wednesday 01 April 2009, Dieter Plaetinck escribió: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:28:44 +0200 (CEST) > > "Thomas Bohn" wrote: > > On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > This was posted in march. And it's discussed on the developer > > > mailing list and voted for. P

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Chris Allison
ooh does Gentoo suck, that hasn't happened to me for ages 2009/4/1 M Rawash : > On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:28 +0200, Thomas Bohn wrote: >> On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: >> >> > This was posted in march.   And it's discussed on the developer mailing >> > list and voted for.  Pe

Re: [arch-general] i686 build machines for rent

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Wed, April 1, 2009 15:49, Alper KANAT wrote: > I guess we should stick with upcoming processor architectures instead of > existing ones.. We're the future! That is why Arch should drop x86_64 too. MMIX is the future! SCNR, Thomas

Re: [arch-general] i686 build machines for rent

2009-04-01 Thread Alper KANAT
I guess we should stick with upcoming processor architectures instead of existing ones.. We're the future! I can share some power of my Macbook Pro if you want.. :) All for 0xPD! Alper KANAT Corrado Primier wrote: > Since the decision of discontinuing the i686 binary repo, many people > who c

[arch-general] i686 build machines for rent

2009-04-01 Thread Corrado Primier
Since the decision of discontinuing the i686 binary repo, many people who can't or don't want to switch will need to recompile their packages themselves. Then there's also the problem of devs and TUs who don't have access to an x86_64 machine. Striving to find a solution I came up with an idea: sel

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Georg Grabler
chrooting 32 bit did always work with arch64. I had some problems with that one though, and by dropping i686 completely, you'll still need somebody to build all those 32bit packages, or do it yourself On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Abdul Halim wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Dieter Pl

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Abdul Halim wrote: Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st April.. LOL.. Doh! Cause I received the email on March 31! DR

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Abdul Halim
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:29:58 +0200 (CEST) > "Thomas Bohn" wrote: > > > On Wed, April 1, 2009 11:00, M Rawash wrote: > > > > > a more obvious choice would be to stick with archlinux+ABS, remember > > > we're just dropping BINARY package su

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:29:58 +0200 (CEST) "Thomas Bohn" wrote: > On Wed, April 1, 2009 11:00, M Rawash wrote: > > > a more obvious choice would be to stick with archlinux+ABS, remember > > we're just dropping BINARY package support, arch's build tools will > > remain the same, think of it as a le

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Drop ping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread stefan-husm...@t-online.de
-Original Message- > Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:53:59 +0200 > Subject: Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 > support] > From: "Leslie P. Polzer" > To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux" > > > I doubt that, besides I'm currently using Arch on my eeePC and even > > if

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Leslie P. Polzer
> I doubt that, besides I'm currently using Arch on my eeePC and even if I > get a new (64 bits) computer anytime soon, I won't maintain two different > distro on both computers. So I'm looking for a new distro to replace Arch. Yeah, you better do. It's about time the obsolete i686 branch vanish

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread hollunder
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:17:47 -0300 "Cesar G. Miguel" wrote: > > Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st > > April.. LOL.. > > It depends on where you live to be April 1st :-) > > Let's drop the support for Google [1], Firefox and, of course, Arch > i686 :-) > > Happy Apr,

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Wed, April 1, 2009 11:00, M Rawash wrote: > a more obvious choice would be to stick with archlinux+ABS, remember > we're just dropping BINARY package support, arch's build tools will > remain the same, think of it as a less sucky gentoo. To compile mplayer on my Atom N270 takes forever, I can'

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:31, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > How do you mean alternative? there is no need for alternatives because > the decision was only made because we all agreed pretty much everyone > is using 64bit now anyway. I doubt that, besides I'm currently using Arch on my eeePC and even if

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread M Rawash
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:28 +0200, Thomas Bohn wrote: > On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > This was posted in march. And it's discussed on the developer mailing > > list and voted for. Personally I also agree they made a good choice. > > Okay, what is the alternative? E

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Abdul Halim
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 April 2009 14:01:14 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > Okay, what is the alternative? Especially if you don't want end up > > > with Debian-based distributions? > > Slackware :) It is time to play OpenSolaris and FreeBsd..

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 14:01:14 Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > Okay, what is the alternative? Especially if you don't want end up > > with Debian-based distributions? Slackware :) > How do you mean alternative? there is no need for alternatives because > the decision was only made because we all

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread RedShift
Thomas Bohn wrote: On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: This was posted in march. And it's discussed on the developer mailing list and voted for. Personally I also agree they made a good choice. Okay, what is the alternative? Especially if you don't want end up with Debian-

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:28:44 +0200 (CEST) "Thomas Bohn" wrote: > On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > > > This was posted in march. And it's discussed on the developer > > mailing list and voted for. Personally I also agree they made a > > good choice. > > Okay, what is the

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Thomas Bohn
On Wed, April 1, 2009 10:09, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > This was posted in march. And it's discussed on the developer mailing > list and voted for. Personally I also agree they made a good choice. Okay, what is the alternative? Especially if you don't want end up with Debian-based distributions

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:56:28 +0700 Muhammad Bayu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Abdul Halim > wrote: > > Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st > > April.. LOL.. > > I hope it's true just for the 1st april, b'coz if arch really dropped > the i686 support how ab

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-04-01 Thread ludovic coues
Maybe get the X pid, then kill it with a TERM (15) or QUIT (3) signal will do the job. Give it a try. If you log from the console, you can logout too. This will end the graphic session, then you'll fall back to the console. -ludovic.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Muhammad Bayu
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Abdul Halim wrote: > Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st April.. LOL.. I hope it's true just for the 1st april, b'coz if arch really dropped the i686 support how about all people that using computer in my country? Mostly we use an old co

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:59:46 +0200 Nebojša Stričević wrote: > I have just bought a computer magazine "World of Computers", which is > very popular and good in Serbia. They are writing that AMD has signed > agreements with several most innovative Linux distributions about > dropping support for x86

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-04-01 Thread Nebojša Stričević
I have just bought a computer magazine "World of Computers", which is very popular and good in Serbia. They are writing that AMD has signed agreements with several most innovative Linux distributions about dropping support for x86. There is also a text about number of good sides of this agreement,