seven HUNDRED valve servers? I'm sorry, but I'm with those kinds of numbers I'm 
going to re-raise my earlier point about valve actively "skimming" the bulk of 
the quickplay traffic for themselves and leaving barely anything for 
communities.




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On Wed, 11/6/13, Kyle Sanderson <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the update?
 To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
 Received: Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 7:48 PM
 
 Using my experimental horrible,
 horrible app. There are 2243 (responsive)
 servers at the moment running HellTower. From those 2243
 servers, 1414 of
 them are community servers. From the remaining 829, 705 of
 those are Valve
 servers exclusively running Hell Tower. The remaining 124
 Valve servers
 that are running the mixture of the four, which just so
 happen to be on
 HellTower at the moment.
 
 Hopefully this helps,
 Kyle.
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Rudy Bleeker <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 > Saturation of servers, in other words: too many
 servers, too few
 > players too fill them up.
 >
 > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:45 PM, louloubizou <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 > > Saturation?
 > >
 > > 2013/11/6 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected]>
 > >
 > >>
 > >> There where 20+ on each server, nobody got any
 for over an hour, so that
 > >> emptied them.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> >________________________________
 > >> > From: ics <[email protected]>
 > >> >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server
 mailing list <
 > >> [email protected]>
 > >> >Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013, 7:15
 > >>  >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags
 "event247" broken after the
 > update?
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> >I think it requires 12 or so players. It
 was 8 at the time of the manor
 > >> >event but it was raised at some point due
 to abuse.
 > >> >
 > >> >-ics
 > >> >
 > >> >Kyle Sanderson kirjoitti:
 > >> >> I believe you need at least 8 players
 for drops to work, or so was
 > the
 > >> case
 > >> >> many years ago. I was on one server a
 couple nights ago, two drops
 > >> happened
 > >> >> one after another. Then there was
 nothing for about a half hour; I'm
 > not
 > >> >> sure what happened after that.
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Thanks,
 > >> >> Kyle.
 > >> >>
 > >> >>
 > >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM,
 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <
 > [email protected]
 > >> >wrote:
 > >> >>
 > >> >>> hmm, saw more complaints of no
 gifts dropping anymore. Ppl asking
 > if it
 > >> >>> was regged or not, or w/e the
 problem was on Valve end.
 > >> >>>
 > >> >>> Might be ppl don't go for event
 server if they don't get the
 > personal
 > >> >>> gifts.
 > >> >>>
 > >> >>>
 > >> >>>
 > >> >>>>
 ________________________________
 > >> >>>> From: Calvin Judy <[email protected]>
 > >> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux
 server mailing list <
 > >> >>> [email protected]>
 > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 5 November
 2013, 23:04
 > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is
 sv_tags "event247" broken after the
 > >> update?
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>> Saturation.
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
 > >> >>>> From: "louloubizou" <[email protected]>
 > >> >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list"
 > >> >>>> <[email protected]>
 > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05,
 2013 4:17 PM
 > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is
 sv_tags "event247" broken after the
 > >> update?
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>>
 > >> >>>>> i get no more traffic
 since 2 days
 > >> >>>>>
 > >> >>>>> what is happening ?
 > >> >>>>>
 > >> >>>>> 2013/11/3 cladiron <[email protected]>
 > >> >>>>>
 > >> >>>>>> Calvin, did you read
 2 post above yours ?
 > >> >>>>>> Does the message
 below mean that i'm automatically removed even
 > tho
 > >> its
 > >> >>>>>> setup to be in the
 match making ?
 > >> >>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>> *Sending
 CMsgGameServerMatchmakingStatus
 > >> >>>>>>
 (state=ServerMatchmakingState_NOT_PARTICIPATING)*
 > >> >>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013
 at 12:52 AM, Calvin Judy <[email protected]>
 > >> wrote:
 > >> >>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>> Influx of servers
 = decrease in players per server.
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>> The tags aren't
 broken.
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>> ----- Original
 Message ----- From: "cladiron" <
 > [email protected]>
 > >> >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life
 dedicated Linux server mailing list"
 > >> <hlds_linux@list.
 > >> >>>>>>>
 valvesoftware.com>
 > >> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday,
 November 01, 2013 10:52 PM
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re:
 [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken after the
 > >> >>>>>>> update?
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>
 > >>
 >>>>>>>   We had a full
 server with matchmaking until that first update
 > >> after
 > >> >>>>>>> the
 > >> >>>>>>>> Halloween.
 > >> >>>>>>>> It's been
 like this ever since, and haven't seen the first
 > player.
 > >> >>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov
 1, 2013 at 10:44 PM, cladiron <[email protected]>
 > >> >>> wrote:
 > >>
 >>>>>>>>   I think
 it's still broke. both tags.
 > >> >>>>>>>>> I have
 tried it both ways and get the same message that i'm
 > not
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 participating.
 > >> >>>>>>>>> I also
 notice that is says next map is dustbowl, even tho i
 > >> edited
 > >> >>>>>>>>> the
 > >> >>>>>>>>> files for
 plr_hightower_event, and restarted the server.
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Sending
 CMsgGameServerMatchmakingStatus
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 (state=ServerMatchmakingState_NOT_PARTICIPATING)
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:07: server_cvar: "sm_nextmap"
 > "cp_dustbowl"
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 Connection to Steam servers successful.
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Assigned
 anonymous gameserver Steam ID [A-1:776458241(3743)].
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>> VAC
 secure mode is activated.
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 Connection to game coordinator established.
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Current
 item schema is up-to-date with version 5074B955.
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Received
 auth challenge; signing into gameserver account...
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: Received auth challenge; signing
 into
 > >> >>>>>> gameserver
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 account...
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Game
 server authentication: SUCCESS! Standing: Good. Trend:
 > >> >>> Downward
 > >> >>>>>> Fast
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: Game server authentication: SUCCESS!
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 Standing:
 > >> >>>>>>>>> Good.
 Trend: Downward Fast
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: server_cvar:
 > "sv_registration_message"
 > >> ""
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: server_cvar:
 > >> "sv_registration_successful"
 > >> >>>>>>>>> "1"
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: server_cvar: "sv_tags"
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 "_registered,event247,payload"
 > >> >>>>>>>>> L
 11/01/2013 - 21:14:08: server_cvar: "sv_tags"
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 "_registered,event247,payload"
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>> On Fri,
 Nov 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM, louloubizou <
 > >> [email protected]
 > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
 > >> >>>>>>>>>
 > >>
 >>>>>>>>>   how
 did you see the score etc ?
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>
 2013/11/2 Calvin Judy <[email protected]>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 It's just saturation, my servers dropped from ~6000 new
 > players
 > >> >>> to
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 5
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 the
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 last update, but they're all full at the moment.
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "louloubizou" > <
 > >> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>
 <hlds_linux@list.**
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 valvesoftware.com <[email protected]>>
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:21 PM
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Is sv_tags "event247" broken
 after
 > >> >>> the >
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>
 update?
 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>
 >>>>>>>>>>>   since
 the last update (1h) i got no more traffic from
 > >> >>> matchmaking
 > >> >>>>>> ...
 > >>
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