Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> oh u mean the .desktop files in Desktop - which ones specifically? there's 
> more
> than one way to mount a filesystem than by fstab. :)
>   

:D

>> The default behaviour of e17 doesn't fit to the needs of unexperienced 
>> and in addition not to the needs of experienced users.
>>     
>
> seems to fit the needs of many - including me. it works out of the box on all
> my machines - all of which run ubuntu btw. i can deal with removable media
> (cd's, dvd's, usb storage, mmcblk etc.), deal with my files, deal with my 
> apps.
> it meets the needs of this experienced user and developer - and i know it 
> meets
> the needs of others. i know of no one except you that just changed desktops
> regularly - they use one for weeks or months or years on end. you'd be an
> exception, not a rule. :) it may not meet your needs - sure, but developers
> scratch their own itches first, then they cater to the majority of users.
> minorities normally send patches to support themselves :)

I don't know if packages for e17 play havoc with desktops of additional
installed DEs. I accept that for the SVN version the default behaviour
should fit to the developers needs. I guess once e17 is configured, it
won't change it's behaviour, after installing an updated SVN version ;).
For packages the maintainers should take care not to do anything by
default, that changes something on the desktop for another DE. If you
want users to use SVN versions, this might be useful because of bug
reports, another default might be better.

Linux users are a minority and of course real-time users are a minority
at this minority. For this minor...@minority I guess there're not less
users who like to have a DE similar to KDE for office stuff and
something lightweight as Fluxbox for audio recording and MIDI.

Because the DE is basal for users and because users often just want to
be users, any DE should take care about issues that potentially can
confuse users.

Most of us are eating by using cutlery, we learn how to eat by using
forks and knives or chopsticks and how to clean them, but it's unusual
that we learn how to make forks, knives and chopsticks. For users doing
the configuration as a newbie is similar to program an application.

I won't start a debate on principles, I just want suggest to use other
defaults, because for many computer users Linux is unappealing, because
it needs to much time to configure it. It's fine that there are many
possibilities to configure it individually, but default settings for one
application shouldn't play havoc with the settings of another application.

Cheers,
Ralf




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