Hi :)

I'm new to the list, but used e17 some years ago on JAD, based on Suse. 
I liked it, but wasn't fine with it's instability, it was much to 
experimental for my needs.

Actually my main Linux installation is 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 amd64, based 
on Hardy. The machine is a mobo ASUS M2A-VM HDMI ACPI BIOS Revision 2302 
with HDMI and on-board sound disabled, CPUmodel 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 
X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350" 2.1 GHz, memory Size 1 GB + 896 MB, the 
sound card is an Envy24 based Terratec EWX 24/96 and in addition I'm 
using an USB MIDI device from Swissonic. It has got an ATA and a SATA 
hard disk and a SATA DVD-RAM drive. The monitor is an old CRT one, EIZO 
FlexScan F522-M and I guess it's transistors are on the rocks.

Other WMs/DEs for this installation are Kwin/KDE4 and the default GNOME, 
that's why X sessions are started by GDM. I consider to install Ion too. 
Over a long period I preferred KDE3 and in addition Ion2, for now most 
often I run GNOME sessions.

The kernel is the 2.6.29-1-multimedia-amd64 rt kernel.

This machine is fine for nearly all Linux applications I need, troubles 
are for MIDI, because of jitter for external devices, because of the 
proprietary driver for the integrated ATI Radeon X 1250-based graphics 
and the frequencies for the monitor, which has nothing to do with it's 
transistors. Only old Linux installations were able to set the 
frequencies, but it seems to be impossible for actual Linux installations.

Enlightenment was installed by the SVN revision 41746 source. I had some 
unwanted effects, after changing to a GNOME session there were links to 
the drives on the desktop of GNOME, that shouldn't be there and e17's 
'main menu > Internet' did only adapt one entry I added manually to the 
GNOME menu, but missed other entries for this sub menu, while other sub 
menus, where I didn't add anything manually, seems to be completely 
adapted from the GNOME menu.

I decided to install e17 again and to discard ~/.e. FWIW, this is what I 
did:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

~$ rm -r .e
~$ cat /usr/share/xsessions/e17.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=e17
Name[de]=e17
Comment=This session logs you into e17
Comment[de]=Diese Sitzung meldet Dich an e17 an
Exec=/usr/local/bin/enlightenment_start
Type=Application
~$ cd /usr/src/e
e$ sudo ntpdate ntp.favey.ch
14 Aug 15:32
e$ svn up
Updated to revision 41761.
e$ cd ./trunk/eina
eina$ ./autogen.sh
eina$ make
eina$ sudo make install
eina$ sudo ldconfig
eina$ make clean
eina$ cd ../eet
eet$ ./autogen.sh
eet$ sudo make install
eet$ sudo ldconfig
eet$ make clean
eet$ cd ../evas
evas$ ./autogen.sh
evas$ sudo make install
evas$ sudo ldconfig
evas$ make clean
evas$ cd ../ecore
ecore$ ./autogen.sh
ecore$ sudo make install
ecore$ sudo ldconfig
ecore$ make clean
ecore$ cd ../embryo
embryo$ ./autogen.sh
embryo$ sudo make install
embryo$ sudo ldconfig
embryo$ make clean
embryo$ cd ../edje
edje$ ./autogen.sh
edje$ sudo make install
edje$ sudo ldconfig
edje$ make clean
edje$ cd ../efreet
efreet$ ./autogen.sh
efreet$ sudo make install
efreet$ sudo ldconfig
efreet$ make clean
efreet$ cd ../e_dbus
e_dbus$ ./autogen.sh
e_dbus$ sudo make install
e_dbus$ sudo ldconfig
e_dbus$ make clean
e_dbus$ cd ../e
e$ ./autogen.sh
[snip]
config.status: WARNING:  po/Makefile.in.in seems to ignore the 
--datarootdir setting
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: config.h is unchanged
./config.status: line 1451: ./stamp-h1: Permission denied
config.status: executing depfiles commands
config.status: executing default-1 commands
config.status: creating po/POTFILES
config.status: setting ALL_LINGUAS in configure.in is obsolete
config.status: creating po/Makefile

Summary:
 * project.........: enlightenment 0.16.999.062
 * prefix..........: /usr/local
 * CFLAGS..........: -g -O2
 * LDFLAGS.........:

 * enabled modules.: +ibar +ibar +dropshadow +clock +pager +battery 
+temperature +cpufreq +ibox +start +exebuf +winlist +fileman 
+fileman-opinfo +wizard +conf +conf-wallpaper +conf-wallpaper2 
+conf-theme +conf-colors +conf-fonts +conf-borders +conf-icon-theme 
+conf-mouse-cursor +conf-transitions +conf-startup +conf-intl +conf-imc 
+conf-profiles +msgbus-lang +conf-engine +conf-applications +conf-desks 
+conf-desk +conf-display +conf-desklock +conf-screensaver +conf-dpms 
+conf-shelves +conf-keybindings +conf-mousebindings +conf-edgebindings 
+conf-mouse +conf-window-display +conf-window-focus 
+conf-window-remembers +conf-window-manipulation +conf-menus 
+conf-clientlist +conf-dialogs +conf-performance +conf-winlist 
+conf-exebuf +conf-paths +conf-mime +conf-interaction +conf-scale 
+gadman +mixer +illume +syscon +everything +systray
 * disabled modules: -connman
[snip]
e$ sudo make all install
e$ sudo ldconfig
e$ make clean
e$ sudo ntpdate ntp.favey.ch
14 Aug 16:30

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It makes me wonder, if I had to run the last ./autogen.sh by sudo, 
because of the denied permission. A well maintained repository for e17 
would be fine, because it takes around 1 hour to compile everything 
that's needed.

On the GNOME session where I compiled e17, I installed and then launched 
by user 'gconf-editor', by apps > nautilus > desktop unchecked 'volumes 
visible' and logged out and in again. The mess original caused by e17 
became more worse then before. I restarted, nothing did change. Then 
'gconf-editor' was launched by 'sudo', I unchecked 'volumes visible' and 
restarted. By 'gconf-editor' 'volumes visible' still is unchecked, but 
there are *links* on the Desktop and 'strange' files in ~/Desktop.

~$ ls Desktop
home.desktop
root.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_11.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_12.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_13.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_14.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_1.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_5.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_6.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_7.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_8.desktop
|storage_serial_1ATA_SAMSUNG_HD321KJ_S0MQJ9AQ308387_9.desktop
|storage_serial_L24K9GLG_10.desktop
|storage_serial_L24K9GLG_1.desktop
|storage_serial_L24K9GLG_5.desktop
|storage_serial_L24K9GLG_8.desktop
|storage_serial_L24K9GLG_9.desktop
tmp.desktop

What are 'home.desktop', 'root.desktop' and 'tmp.desktop' used for?

I guess it should be possible just to delete the links from ~/Desktop, 
*after any mounted device is unmounted*, so this seems to be solved, 
I'll do it later, resp. I'll delete those files by running another Linux 
install. Hopefully there are no serious changes for settings e.g. in 
/etc done by e17. I've got backups ;).

After logging out the GNOME session, I logged in an e17 session, this is 
fine, resp. I suspect it will be a PITA to set X for e17 sessions on 
Ubuntu. I'm missing the flashy environment I know from the past, at the 
moment it's odd. Anyhow, I'll set up e17 later and search for themes 
etc., but I won't be able to search the archive, because it seems to be off.

Any hints are welcome!

Cheers,
Ralf


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