Hello,
> This has nothing to do with you.
Why was the email in my inbox and not in yours then?
> We're all volunteers, so are the RT and the CT, please drop that line of
> argument.
Indeed we are. And? Does that make it ok for people to waste other
people's time?
Unless I do any violation of the rules I am free to adopt any line of
argument I like. Thankfully we don't restrict thought.
> No. The Debian project reaches consensus in lots of ways. GRs are just one of
> the (most formal) ways. There was no vote, but as I read it, there's
> consensus.
Ok, you're just making it up then. You might be right but you might not be.
> It's not of "life or death" importance, obviously not, you're being hyperbolic
> here.
It's not of immediate urgency either if it hasn't been for the past 22
years. So at best it's a "normal" bug, certainly not RC.
> * a package that was shipped in Debian 20 years ago doesn't inherit a specific
> privilege to continue being shipped by Debian today
As I said, if you are offering to be billed for my wasted time, we can
certainly discuss about it.
Otherwise, waking up after 22 years, and making me waste 2 years of
work is an abuse of power.
> * not shipping a package in Debian doesn't remove its content (or datasets)
> from the Internet (nor from the oldstable, snapshots, software archives, etc).
It also doesn't bring back the time I wasted on it :)
And the funny thing is that removing the -off package does absolutely
nothing. The real work is reviewing the regular ones. But you seem too
busy to tell me what I can and cannot think, so you can't help with
that right?
> That's obviously not true. You closed the bug. It was re-opened by a Release
> Team member who made it a Release Team topic. You continue to make this a
> Community Team issue; it is not.
Of course it is. No debian machine is going to break and become
unbootable during upgrade because of that package.
> It was filed by Andrew, who happens to be a CT member. But for the sake of
> argument, let's consider it a CT decision. Fact is, it's now being enforced
> (for trixie) by the Release Team for reasons of their own: it occurs that they
> agree with the Community Team on that topic.
Ok. Give them a time machine and tell them to email me 2 years ago please.
> We can, and should be having conversations about the role we want the
> Community Team to have in the project, but that bug (or thread) is not the
> right place.
Like weapons rights in USA, it's never the right moment to discuss them :)
> Again, I understand the frustration of getting a package you spent muscle and
> sweat maintaining on your free time being kicked out of Debian. I really do.
Has it happened to you? If not, I don't think you do.
Best
--
Salvo Tomaselli
I difensori della morale tradizionale sono raramente persone di cuore. Si è
tentati di pensare che essi si servano della morale come di legittimo sfogo
al loro desiderio di fare del male agli altri.
-- Bertrand Russell, Perché non sono cristiano. 1957
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