Hi Salvo, I have nothing helpful to add to the discussion, but I'd like to say that I value a lot the time you spend in Debian, and I'm sorry that you decided not joining DebConf this year. Here I've had some pleasant conversations with people I don't get on with via email, which really shows how important face-to-face events are for the project. I hope we'll meet in the future and we'll feel okay about any disagreements we may have.
Bests, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:06:11AM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > For the past 20 years debian has shipped offensive content in the > non-offensive section. > > 2 years ago I started to work to rectify the situation. > > Where was the community team for those 20 years? > > Where are they now? > > Why are they refusing to help? > > Why is the reaction to waste my time instead of actually helping? > > I leave you with a quote. It's not in the offensive section but it > might offend some. > > I difensori della morale tradizionale sono raramente persone di cuore. Si è > tentati di pensare che essi si servano della morale come di legittimo sfogo > al loro desiderio di fare del male agli altri. > -- Bertrand Russell, Perché non sono cristiano. 1957 > > > > Best > > Il giorno gio 17 lug 2025 alle ore 10:54 Tiago Bortoletto Vaz > <ti...@debian.org> ha scritto: > > > > Hello, > > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 10:38:29AM +0200, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: > > > Hi Alex, > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, Alex wrote: > > > > > > > > problem, when we have the package - as other thousand packages too - > > > > > and let the admin decide wether he wants to install it? > > > > > > > > It's problematic because Debian would be providing its huge platform to > > > > offensive/harmful content. > > > > > > yes, it would. It would also not forcing anyone using this content. If > > > you want to have it then you have to install it by yourself. > > > > Any software packaged in Debian is automatically promoted, meaning that > > Debian itself (as a project) is responsible for disseminating its > > contents. This has nothing to do with free speech, which is currently > > the dominant narrative used by big tech companies to avoid > > responsibility when their algorithms promote hatred written by others. > > This isn't about silencing them; it's simply about not providing them > > with our infrastructure to spread their hatred (jokes are one of the > > most common form of expressed hatred). > > > > > you do not have to install this content if you do not like it. if you > > > want to, you can - but it is your decision. if you remove the content, > > > you take this decision away. > > > > Yes. You don't even need a Debian package for that. > > > > > So, as long as someone wants to take care of this package, I say let > > > it be in the package pool. > > > > Fine, but those in charge (thanks release team) decided not to. > > > > > please respect all people and respect that they may have a different > > > opinion or view as you. > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > Bests, > > > > -- > > Tiago Bortoletto Vaz > > > > > -- > Salvo Tomaselli > > "Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di > senso, ragione ed intelletto intendesse che noi ne facessimo a meno." > -- Galileo Galilei > > https://ltworf.codeberg.page/
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