Same here..
Pre-loading is non functional and persistent cache as well..  We do not use
it.. as it causes issues for us.
We are awaiting a BMC patch ... <sing> Someday.. over the rainbow... When
sky's are blue.... </sing>


On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Jiri Pospisil <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Regarding your point no. 2, I have seen the same issue in our environment
> (though we are on 7.6.03 version), i.e. AREA plugin thread crashing when
> mid-tier was pre-loading its cache.
> The cause was user impersonation calls being issued by mid-tier as these
> have the password set to NULL (as oppose to something or an empty string)
> and our custom plugin for authentication was not able to cope with that.
> Had to update the custom authentication plugin code to check for NULL
> values in password and then all worked fine.
>
> At the end, I turned the pre-loading off as well as cache persistence.
> Pre-loading put so much load on the production box, that users could hardly
> do anything for a while. Persistent cache was getting corrupt on a regular
> basis and only way to rebuild it was to flush the cache and restart Tomcat.
> Our environment is 7.6.03 running apache/tomcat bundled with the install on
> MS Windows Server 2003.
>
> Hope this is of some help.
>
> Regards
> Jiri Pospisil
> LCH Clearnet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of strauss
> Sent: 14 July 2011 20:02
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Possible issues with 7.6.04.01 Pre-Load
>
> Just wondering what other sites working on 7.6.04.01 are seeing with
> regards to pre-loading in the mid-tier.
>
> Environment: mid-tier 7.6.04.01 on Tomcat 6.0.32 on JVM 1.6.0_24 x64 on
> Win2K3 R2 x64
> - Pre-Production mid-tier has 2 quad-core i7s and 12 gb RAM and is running
> several ARS-related apps as well
> - Admin mid-tier is directly on the AR Server, which has 2 quad-core i7s
> and 24 gb RAM and is running several other ARS-related apps
>
> Preload is running on both mid-tiers, for FQDN on the Admin box and both
> FQDN and short name on the Pre-Prod box
>        (FQDN seems to be a requirement to make the Atrium Core Console
> work, plus we prefer using it for DNS reasons)
>
> Two problems that we are seeing appear to be related to the Preload process
> and form caching:
>
> 1. Dialog boxes using Display Only Forms are VERY sluggish loading and
> saving.  The HPD:Help Desk Dialog form takes up to a minute to open and
> display, and another minute to save and close (versus 8 seconds on our 7.1
> mid-tier at the very worst - but on 7.0.03 it is really a view of the actual
> HPD:Help Desk regular form!).  Opening CTM:People Search (another display
> only form) takes 20-30 seconds to open - enough that our support staff do
> not want to rely on it to search for Login Name and want me to extend that
> particular required customization back to HPD:Help Desk and now HPD:Help
> Desk Dialogs the way it is in 7.0.  Most of the other dialogs opened from
> the Quick Actions links have the same problem - they take at least 20 or 30
> seconds to load, versus response times of no greater than 8 seconds for
> similar functions on our 7.1 mid-tier (on MUCH older hardware).  On that
> system, a comprehensive prefetch configuration is the key to performance.
>  The 7.6.04.01 preload for consoles and regular forms seems to work fine,
> but for dialogs using display only forms it is terrible.  Our support staff
> testing the product do not think that this is acceptable for production use.
>
> 2. Starting the tomcat (after the AR Server has started or has been running
> a while), triggering a preload from persistent cache, has crashed the AREA
> plugin thread several times now as it thrashes through all sorts of failures
> to prefetch on various high-use forms (including those with poor response
> times) on various usernames of people actively testing the system.  The
> authentication service then remains down until ARS is restarted, effectively
> blocking ALL non-support staff from logging in to ITSM or Kinetic Request.
>
> Related problems?; probably.  Impact?; we will not go live until they are
> solved.  Just wondered what others were seeing out there... I have issues
> open on both items.
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>
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