I do not know the proper procedures for a "mailing list" such as this, but
I'm trying very hard to learn enough of how Apertium works to develop
language pairs on it, so I'm giving this a try.

I had been asking on the #apertium IRC channel about a way to see the steps
being taken by Apertium in the process of translating something, especially
in an experimental language pair that one hasn't shared with the public yet
(in the early stages of learning how to make monolingual resources and
language pairs), and perhaps even the potential addition of step-by-step
round-trip translation support, from a source language to a target language
and back, seeing the steps along the way, and I was directed to
Apertium-view as a tool which should be able to do at least part of what I
was looking for.

After downloading Apertium-view and getting it to work on an
online-language pair I could see that it would serve most of the purpose I
had in mind, and even includes substantial additional functionality, but
unfortunately when I tried it with a local experimental language pair it
complained that the mode file I specified could not be found. So, I made a
new experimental language pair on my system's main drive, thinking perhaps
it can't see my removable media, and that got it to see the mode file, but
then it claims all the other files it needs cannot be found. Actually,
there were more steps involved than what I'm describing, but I'm trying to
keep this simple. For example, I noticed the original error message gave
the address of the mode file twice, in one correctly case starting with "/"
and in the other case not, so... yeah... long story. Anyway, I have been
trying to figure out how to contact the developer of Apertium-view and
here's a copy of the text of the e-mail I recently sent out as one
attempt...

"Saluton. I hope this reaches the right person.

I am trying to work on language pairs on Apertium, but am having trouble
finding the information I need, so I recently asked about any tool that
could help me see the steps Apertium is taking as it translates from one
language to another, and I was directed to Apertium-viewer. However, I have
been unable to get it to work for my local experimental language pairs. I
see in the wiki page that it is supposed to work with SVN source
directories but I still have no clue how to set up such a thing, nor do I
think my experimental language pairs are ready for that stage since I am
still trying to learn how to make them properly. Apertium-view cannot seem
to open any files at all from my removable media (which is the only place I
really have space to work) and even when I made an experimental language
pair in my home directory and was able to get it to open a mode file, it
still failed to be able to open any of the files it then needed to proceed.
For example, it says that it cannot open
"/home/tz/apertium-qlt-qay.automorf.bin"
even though that file does exist, is not on removable media, and has its
permissions set so that it should be accessible. I'm somewhat of a newbie
on Linux so it MAY BE something I'm doing wrong, but I have no way of
knowing. Please, help if you can."

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Maybe he'll see this... or maybe someone else will see it and be able to
tell me how to work around it, or perhaps my expressed intent will inspire
something I hadn't even directly thought of. Regardless, I hope this
message does some good, somehow.

Donald Arthur Kronos
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