From: Lukáš Vlček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 3:25:33 AM
Subject: Re: Solr Logo thought
Hoss,
thanks for comprehensive history tour.
As for the sun motive I like it and think it is a strong one
(strong enough
to be the only leading motive in the logo) but I didn't want to
insist on it
without knowing that the community calls for it (especially I like
to idea
that the logo or favicon should evoke the feeling that you are
looking into
the sun).
As for the favicon debate I think that it is a bit overstated (IMHO).
Favicon is important but I don't think that whole logo must be done
in a
such way that it can be directly scaled down to favicon size without
significant visual appearance attractivity loss. For example Yahoo!
uses
just Y! for favicon, Google uses g (G formerly) and Solr uses just
gradient
box (which is a nice idea I think). So for me the *direct
compatibility* of
a new logo with favicon is not critical as long as that are other
options
for favicon provided.
I already have some ideas about Solr logo and I will try to put
drafts down
so that response/critics can be collected. Also it would be
interesting if
this could provoke other designers for collaboration (aren't we
talking
about open source project? :-)
Regards,
Lukas
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote:
: I would like to give it a shot. Are there any solr logo success
: criteria/requirements? Any hints or suggestions from community is
welcomed.
: Just close your eyes, start dreaming and send my couple of words
about
what
: you see... I am all ears.
Other people who care more about the logo have already given lots
of good
feedback on things that should be kept in mind ... the only one i
would
question is that the logo need to look good at favicon sizes ...
that
tends to be really limiting.
Even if the primary logo doesn't look good at favicon sizes (or in
B&W)
the important thing is that a cohesive "brand" can be established
arround
a logo (take for instance the apache feather with is long and
horizontal,
but can be rotated to fit diagnoally in a square favicon, or the
existing
Solr favicon which has thesame color palate as the Solr Logo and
evokes
the idea that you are looking into the sun). What a "Powered By"
logo
would look like is also something to keep in mind.
: Also I found that the wiki mentions some
: genesis<
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ#head-6d74c2bb4171b0908a4695cbb24acd368a29dc06
of
: Solar/Solr technology but still I don't understand if the
relation to
: sun
: is intentional or coincidence.
A little of both.
As yonik mentioned once upon a time...
http://markmail.org/message/sgxaz5nv5mapzw34 ...CNET had an
interal product called "ATOMICS" which stood for "Apache TO MySQL
In CNET
Search" (it was a made up acronym to support the fact that people
wanted
to be able to say apps that used it were "Atomic powered"). When
it was
decided that there should be a Lucene based alternative, someone
got the
idea that it should be named "SOLAR" so you could have "Solar
Powered"
applications instead of using "ATOMICS" (CNET has a long history
of puns
in internal product/project acronyms) and it was backronymed to be
"Searching On Lucene And Resin".
When it cam time to open source "SOLAR" we had to change the name:
1) we
couldn't have an acronym with "Resin" in it because it's a
commercial
product (and besides, Solr works just find with any servlet
container);
2) there was some legal issue with the word "Solar" ... i don't
remember
exactly what, it might have been an existing trademark. I
suggested we
just drop the "A" and make the R stand for Replication (or maybe
someone
else had already suggested "Solr" and I just suggested what the R
could be
for -- i don't remember). Ultimately "Solr" was the final decision,
mainly because it was short, passed legal approval, and allowed us
to keep
pronouncing it the same way in conversation -- but we droped the
kludgy acronym.
So yes: the relation tothe sun was intentional, but not for any good
reason. Personally, I've always had a fondness for saying
something is
"Solr Powered" when people ask ... so I do think it would be nice to
maintain a Sun motif.
-Hoss
--
http://blog.lukas-vlcek.com/
