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----- Original Message ----
> From: Mike Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 1:28:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Solr Logo thought
> 
> To me, the release timing doesn't much affect what logo we decided to  
> use or when to adopt it.  Surely the most visible, important location  
> for the logo is on the website, that we can replace at any time?
> 
> -Mike
> 
> On 8-Aug-08, at 7:30 AM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> 
> > I think you are right about favicon and I look forward to your  
> > logos.  Not sure how closely you follow solr lists, but the 1.3  
> > release is planned for the 18th and if people spot issues with 1.3,  
> > there will be 1.3.1 after that.  So these are some time frames if  
> > you want to try getting the logs in for 1.3 or 1.3.1
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> >
> > Otis
> > --
> > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Lukáš Vlček 
> >> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> >> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 3:25:33 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Solr Logo thought
> >>
> >> Hoss,
> >>
> >> thanks for comprehensive history tour.
> >>
> >> As for the sun motive I like it and think it is a strong one  
> >> (strong enough
> >> to be the only leading motive in the logo) but I didn't want to  
> >> insist on it
> >> without knowing that the community calls for it (especially I like  
> >> to idea
> >> that the logo or favicon should evoke the feeling that you are  
> >> looking into
> >> the sun).
> >>
> >> As for the favicon debate I think that it is a bit overstated (IMHO).
> >> Favicon is important but I don't think that whole logo must be done  
> >> in a
> >> such way that it can be directly scaled down to favicon size without
> >> significant visual appearance attractivity loss. For example Yahoo!  
> >> uses
> >> just Y! for favicon, Google uses g (G formerly) and Solr uses just  
> >> gradient
> >> box (which is a nice idea I think). So for me the *direct  
> >> compatibility* of
> >> a new logo with favicon is not critical as long as that are other  
> >> options
> >> for favicon provided.
> >>
> >> I already have some ideas about Solr logo and I will try to put  
> >> drafts down
> >> so that response/critics can be collected. Also it would be  
> >> interesting if
> >> this could provoke other designers for collaboration (aren't we  
> >> talking
> >> about open source project? :-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Lukas
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> : I would like to give it a shot. Are there any solr logo success
> >>> : criteria/requirements? Any hints or suggestions from community is
> >>> welcomed.
> >>> : Just close your eyes, start dreaming and send my couple of words  
> >>> about
> >>> what
> >>> : you see... I am all ears.
> >>>
> >>> Other people who care more about the logo have already given lots  
> >>> of good
> >>> feedback on things that should be kept in mind ... the only one i  
> >>> would
> >>> question is that the logo need to look good at favicon sizes ...  
> >>> that
> >>> tends to be really limiting.
> >>>
> >>> Even if the primary logo doesn't look good at favicon sizes (or in  
> >>> B&W)
> >>> the important thing is that a cohesive "brand" can be established  
> >>> arround
> >>> a logo (take for instance the apache feather with is long and  
> >>> horizontal,
> >>> but can be rotated to fit diagnoally in a square favicon, or the  
> >>> existing
> >>> Solr favicon which has thesame color palate as the Solr Logo and  
> >>> evokes
> >>> the idea that you are looking into the sun).  What a "Powered By"  
> >>> logo
> >>> would look like is also something to keep in mind.
> >>>
> >>> : Also I found that the wiki mentions some
> >>> : genesis<
> >>> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ#head-6d74c2bb4171b0908a4695cbb24acd368a29dc06
> >>>> of
> >>> : Solar/Solr technology but still I don't understand if the  
> >>> relation to
> >>> : sun
> >>> : is intentional or coincidence.
> >>>
> >>> A little of both.
> >>>
> >>> As yonik mentioned once upon a time...
> >>>      http://markmail.org/message/sgxaz5nv5mapzw34 ...CNET had an
> >>> interal product called "ATOMICS" which stood for "Apache TO MySQL  
> >>> In CNET
> >>> Search" (it was a made up acronym to support the fact that people  
> >>> wanted
> >>> to be able to say apps that used it were "Atomic powered").  When  
> >>> it was
> >>> decided that there should be a Lucene based alternative, someone  
> >>> got the
> >>> idea that it should be named "SOLAR" so you could have "Solar  
> >>> Powered"
> >>> applications instead of using "ATOMICS" (CNET has a long history  
> >>> of puns
> >>> in internal product/project acronyms) and it was backronymed to be
> >>> "Searching On Lucene And Resin".
> >>>
> >>> When it cam time to open source "SOLAR" we had to change the name:  
> >>> 1) we
> >>> couldn't have an acronym with "Resin" in it because it's a  
> >>> commercial
> >>> product (and besides, Solr works just find with any servlet  
> >>> container);
> >>> 2) there was some legal issue with the word "Solar" ... i don't  
> >>> remember
> >>> exactly what, it might have been an existing trademark.  I  
> >>> suggested we
> >>> just drop the "A" and make the R stand for Replication (or maybe  
> >>> someone
> >>> else had already suggested "Solr" and I just suggested what the R  
> >>> could be
> >>> for -- i don't remember).  Ultimately "Solr" was the final decision,
> >>> mainly because it was short, passed legal approval, and allowed us  
> >>> to keep
> >>> pronouncing it the same way in conversation -- but we droped the
> >>> kludgy acronym.
> >>>
> >>> So yes: the relation tothe sun was intentional, but not for any good
> >>> reason.  Personally, I've always had a fondness for saying  
> >>> something is
> >>> "Solr Powered" when people ask ... so I do think it would be nice to
> >>> maintain a Sun motif.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Hoss
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> http://blog.lukas-vlcek.com/
> >

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