Hoss,

thanks for comprehensive history tour.

As for the sun motive I like it and think it is a strong one (strong enough
to be the only leading motive in the logo) but I didn't want to insist on it
without knowing that the community calls for it (especially I like to idea
that the logo or favicon should evoke the feeling that you are looking into
the sun).

As for the favicon debate I think that it is a bit overstated (IMHO).
Favicon is important but I don't think that whole logo must be done in a
such way that it can be directly scaled down to favicon size without
significant visual appearance attractivity loss. For example Yahoo! uses
just Y! for favicon, Google uses g (G formerly) and Solr uses just gradient
box (which is a nice idea I think). So for me the *direct compatibility* of
a new logo with favicon is not critical as long as that are other options
for favicon provided.

I already have some ideas about Solr logo and I will try to put drafts down
so that response/critics can be collected. Also it would be interesting if
this could provoke other designers for collaboration (aren't we talking
about open source project? :-)

Regards,
Lukas

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> : I would like to give it a shot. Are there any solr logo success
> : criteria/requirements? Any hints or suggestions from community is
> welcomed.
> : Just close your eyes, start dreaming and send my couple of words about
> what
> : you see... I am all ears.
>
> Other people who care more about the logo have already given lots of good
> feedback on things that should be kept in mind ... the only one i would
> question is that the logo need to look good at favicon sizes ... that
> tends to be really limiting.
>
> Even if the primary logo doesn't look good at favicon sizes (or in B&W)
> the important thing is that a cohesive "brand" can be established arround
> a logo (take for instance the apache feather with is long and horizontal,
> but can be rotated to fit diagnoally in a square favicon, or the existing
> Solr favicon which has thesame color palate as the Solr Logo and evokes
> the idea that you are looking into the sun).  What a "Powered By" logo
> would look like is also something to keep in mind.
>
> : Also I found that the wiki mentions some
> : genesis<
> http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ#head-6d74c2bb4171b0908a4695cbb24acd368a29dc06
> >of
> : Solar/Solr technology but still I don't understand if the relation to
> : sun
> : is intentional or coincidence.
>
> A little of both.
>
> As yonik mentioned once upon a time...
>        http://markmail.org/message/sgxaz5nv5mapzw34 ...CNET had an
> interal product called "ATOMICS" which stood for "Apache TO MySQL In CNET
> Search" (it was a made up acronym to support the fact that people wanted
> to be able to say apps that used it were "Atomic powered").  When it was
> decided that there should be a Lucene based alternative, someone got the
> idea that it should be named "SOLAR" so you could have "Solar Powered"
> applications instead of using "ATOMICS" (CNET has a long history of puns
> in internal product/project acronyms) and it was backronymed to be
> "Searching On Lucene And Resin".
>
> When it cam time to open source "SOLAR" we had to change the name: 1) we
> couldn't have an acronym with "Resin" in it because it's a commercial
> product (and besides, Solr works just find with any servlet container);
> 2) there was some legal issue with the word "Solar" ... i don't remember
> exactly what, it might have been an existing trademark.  I suggested we
> just drop the "A" and make the R stand for Replication (or maybe someone
> else had already suggested "Solr" and I just suggested what the R could be
> for -- i don't remember).  Ultimately "Solr" was the final decision,
> mainly because it was short, passed legal approval, and allowed us to keep
> pronouncing it the same way in conversation -- but we droped the
> kludgy acronym.
>
> So yes: the relation tothe sun was intentional, but not for any good
> reason.  Personally, I've always had a fondness for saying something is
> "Solr Powered" when people ask ... so I do think it would be nice to
> maintain a Sun motif.
>
>
> -Hoss
>
>


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