Re: chsh and chfn don't work!

G. Q. Shen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > I use RH5 now and now my users can not use chsh and chfn to change their > login shell nor finger information. The error messages are: > setpwnam: File exists > Shell *NOT* changed. Try again later. > > Anybody knows why? It sounds like your /etc/passwd f

Re: SMTP

ramon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > I'm using RedHat 5.0 and I'm trying to use eudora to read my email from > home. I could do this when I had RedHat 4.2 installed, but now it only > works when I go to read my email. When I try to send or reply it gives me > an error relay error. Do I have to start

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joe Klemmer wrote: [...] >Linux is NOT in competition with anything MS produces. Huh? Since when? What, then, *is* Linux competing with? What niche market does Linux serve without competition? Many many scientists are rather fond of linux and much less so of anything micr

Re: How is linux not an O/S Was: Re: Want to give back to linux?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:59:34AM +0100: > If you power on an IBM-PC without a boot disk, it will eventually drop > into a Basic interpreter. I really don't know whether the BIOS of a > modern PC still have this functionality, or whether it has been stripped > out to save space.

Re: FW: FW: How is linux not an O/S Was: Re: Want to give back to lin ux?

Chris Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 11:37:57PM -0600: > your cd rom, it can easily still work in ms-dos (last time I checked I can > boot into dos and access cd's ;-) Not without a driver. -- Scott -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIV

Re: SparQ on Linux??

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Anthony DeStefano wrote: > > I have heard that, in general, removable IDE > > drives do not work, although the ZIP IDE drive > > is supposed to work in some cases. I'm sorry I can't answer your question, but I can verify that the IDE ZIP drive does work under Linux. I hav

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > Don't get stuck in an "us versus them" mentality. Just because Microsoft > does something doesn't mean Microsoft's doing it wrong. If people I'm not. I don't have any religious dislike for Microsoft. I like their context sensitive help, fo

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joe Klemmer wrote: [...] >Linux is NOT in competition with anything MS produces. Huh? Since when? What, then, *is* Linux competing with? What niche market does Linux serve without competition? -- Steve Coile [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tip

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Keith Dart wrote: >On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: >> [...] >> >So they get a job or something where there are Linux machines and they >> >go and try md and it isn't there, they're gonna go crazy, right? Wrong? >>

Re: Linux version of PKZIP?

On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 09:57:16AM -0500, Bob Stanfield wrote: > Gentlefolk, > > Is there a Linux version of PKZIP? I work and e-mail from an Alpha machine. > My clients don't know from nut'in about tar & gzip. It's a pain to have to > move files to the MS machine and back just to archive/z

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

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Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joe Klemmer wrote: [...] >Making the move to Linux means you're going to be exposed to, and likely >work on, other *NIX flavors. That's not a valid assumption. >What good is it to alias a command that works on dozens of other systems >to something that only works on three?

Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joe Klemmer wrote: > > That's basically like saying that an F-16 should be made as easy > to use as a glider. Or something like a F1 racing car made to function > like a peddle car. Yes, Linux or any UNIX can be used as a desktop OS but > to expect the system to be l

Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joe Klemmer wrote: [...] >That's basically like saying that an F-16 should be made as easy to use >as a glider. Careful. There's a big difference between "being as easy to use" and "being as capable as". For instance, I'm sure the pilot of an F-16 wants the plane to be as e

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Felix wrote: > Somehow, through documentation, installation procedures, powerful apps, > GUI's or what-have-you, Linux needs to step beyond the "High end server OS" and > "garage hobbyist" to appeal to the non-tinkerer types. Only then can it really > compete with Window

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: > [...] > >So they get a job or something where there are Linux machines and they > >go and try md and it isn't there, they're gonna go crazy, right? Wrong? > > But that's already going to be the case.

Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Craig Kattner wrote: > There's a lot of talk on this list about using FVWM95 as a default window > manager because it's familiar, but what about command line familiarity? Is > there no value to that? Making the move to Linux means you're going to be exposed to, and l

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, William T Wilson wrote: >On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: >> who will? Are we to hope that UNIX will have the same, cryptic interface >> in 10 years that it has today, or should we hope that it will improve? > >No, we should hope that it will improve. But r

Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Craig Kattner wrote: > I'm afraid I need to disagree with this. I picked up linux mostly > because I wanted to have some understanding of unix, but it does have > potential to be a desktop os. Think about the ease of use complaints, > the original poster complained about not

Re: thanks, but no thanks

No pun intended, I'm sure, and besides, we all tend to rant and babble occasionally. So, I had hoped to install RedHat 5.4 Pro today, but my day went from busy to hectic. Vidiot wrote: > I've made a mistake here. The original rant was from Mat Serwas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > I'm sorry to mix y

Re: Pine

If you are talking about the "Folder Index" screen where messages YOU send show up with "To:" rather than "From:" thats by design. It's not because your mail is any different from anyone elses.. it's just a pine feature. Pine displays any mail you send out with the "To:" field rather than with th

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > who will? Are we to hope that UNIX will have the same, cryptic interface > in 10 years that it has today, or should we hope that it will improve? No, we should hope that it will improve. But replacing all the Unix commands with identical DOS

Re: Internal Modem

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Anthony DeStefano wrote: [...] >It is best to stick to using /dev/ttyS* since the /dev/cua devices are >soon going to be phased out. The recent 2.1 kernels already display >warnings if you use /dev/cua* Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I suggested the cua devices because that's

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: [...] >...but don't you think a pre-existing alias in a particular distribution >would cause confusion? If somebody started new and typed in md and >it worked they would not even wonder if it was a Linux native command. >So they get a job or something where

Re: Pine

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, nearly comatose, David Brett managed to scribble: ::I am not sure I understand the the question is. I am using pine as well ::and the 'reply to' is set to the list. as listed below :: I think he's talking about something I've seen too. When I send a reply to something som

Re: RH 5.0 on ThinkPad

Do not send mail to this address Junaid -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Sub

Re: RH 5.0 on ThinkPad

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Stephen de Vries wrote: > I've been trying to install RH 5.0 on my IBM Thinkpad 360 without any > luck. The boot disk works just fine, but when I'm prompted for the > supplemental disk, I get the error: "mount failed: Device not > configured". There's nothing wrong with th

Netscape, NIS and NFS

Hi, I have the weirdest thing. I have a pretty standard redhat 5.0 system: [fredl@dutchie fredl]$ rpm -qa|grep netscape netscape-communicator-4.04-3 [fredl@dutchie fredl]$ rpm -qa|grep yp yp-tools-1.2-3 ypbind-3.0-3 ypserv-1.1.7-5 yppasswd-0.9-2 [fredl@dutchie fredl]$ rpm -qa|grep nfs nfs-

Re: Pine

I am not sure I understand the the question is. I am using pine as well and the 'reply to' is set to the list. as listed below Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <---* To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pine Resent

Re: SparQ on Linux??

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Thomas Hubbell wrote: > I asked this question yesterday but got no > replies. I'll try again just for the heck of it. . . > > Does anyone know of any plans to support the > Syquest EIDE SparQ removables drives (not the > parallel port version) in Linux? Has anyone even >

Re: Internal Modem

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > Oh, and try using /dev/cua[0123] instead of /dev/ttyS[0123]. > > -- > Steve Coile > [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is best to stick to using /dev/ttyS* since the /dev/cua devices are soon going to be phased out. The recent 2.1 kernels already di

Re: Problems getting Network up with NE2000 clone

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Al Margheim wrote: > > I'm trying to get an Allied Telesyn International AT-2000 (NE-2000 clone) > to work with RedHat v5.0 (kernel 2.0.32) and am having no luck. I've spent > many hours reading faqs, howto's, linux newsgroup postings but I'm still > not sure what the probl

Re: Internal Modem

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Alfonso Barreto Lopez wrote: > How can I setup an internal modem under Linux I tried with /dev/ttyS3 but > it did not work, how can I see if it is recognized > You can see if Linux recognized it by looking at the output of dmesg. Just type 'dmesg' at a console and scrol

Pine

Why is my To: line showing up in the list? I have asked this before, I didn't get any takers, and I can't figure it out. Thanks, Greg Thomas, Network Admin Jack Nadel, Inc. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> >Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir, > >or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands. > >What would motivate people to learn the OS this way? > > Why should they have to? If the aliases allow the users to get their > work done

Re: Internal Modem

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > >Most users will want to have activity on com1/3 (com2/4) at the same > >time,... > > They will? Why? In my experience, users typically have *at most* two Most of them won't. I have two or three serial devices on many of my systems, but in

Re: Problems getting Network up with NE2000 clone

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Al Margheim wrote: >Now, can anyone tell me where I should have looked to find information on >modprobe while I was researching this problem? Also, I am still curious >what I was doing wrong with the Kerneld Configurator in case I need to use >it in the future. man modprobe

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: [...] >Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir, >or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands. >What would motivate people to learn the OS this way? Why should they have to? If the aliases allo

Re: Internal Modem

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Vidiot wrote: [...] >Most users will want to have activity on com1/3 (com2/4) at the same >time,... They will? Why? In my experience, users typically have *at most* two serial devices: a mouse and a modem, and most systems these days ship with PS/2-style mouse connectors, r

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Craig Kattner wrote: [...] >Different means to the same end in this case is hardly faulty. And, if >you don't like them odds are you know how to change them. That is an invalid assumption. Presumably, if you don't like "ls", you know enough to know how to define a "dir" alia

Re: Internal Modem

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Alfonso Barreto Lopez wrote: >I made the link /dev/modem to cua0 and cua1 and I sent this file to it [...] >I did not hear anything about dialing what else can I do? How did you "sen[d] this file to it"? Try using Minicom. Once you invoke Minicom from the command line

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > the case, prompts are and always have been a very personal thing. I think it's the first thing in a long time that we agreed on :) > But that's good for newbies. In a multi-user environment such as an > ISP, adding "-i" to everything is *ver

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Bruce Tong wrote: [...] >* Each machine will eventually be a web server as this is how individuals >will collaborate their work as well as access their own information >from remote locations. Already Linux is like this. MacOS now ships with >"Personal Web Sharing." Windows wil

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, William T Wilson wrote: >On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: >>Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir, >>or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands. >>What would motivate people to learn the OS this way? > >

Re: cc command

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Janwillem Borleffs wrote: >I have a rather (I think) stupid question. I have a program wich calls >on the cc command wich doesn't excist on my system. Wich package must >I install (redHat 5.0) in order to make the command valid? gcc -- Steve Coile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RH 5.0 routing through IN-Joy

On 26 Mar 1998 05:35:20 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I need to set up my RedHat Linux to route through my >OS/2 box running IN-Joy with IP-Masqurading. Although >I have been able to do this with OS/2, NT/95 boxes. I >am too new with RedHat Linux to be able to get it >correct. > I am doing EXA

Re: MS<->Linux version of ?

On the Dos side, look at http://www.mks.com for the *nix tools (tar,grep,etc...) Rick On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Bob Stanfield wrote: > > Gentlefolk, > > Is there a Linux version of ? I work and e-mail from an Alpha machine. > My clients don't know from nut'in about > >and > .

Re: Procmail tutorial

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Phil Humpherys wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 12:56:00AM +0100 Henrik Edlund > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > + > | On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Muad'Dib wrote: > | > Anyone know of a good procmail tutorial? (besides 'man procmail' *grin*) > | > > | > Brian > | >

FW: recompiling the kernal

> -Original Message- > From: Smith, Nathan A., Capt. > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 8:01 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: recompiling the kernal > > Hi again, > > I posted this question a couple of days ago, and I haven't had any > response so I thought I would ask

Re: MS<->Linux version of ?

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Bob Stanfield wrote: > > Is there a Linux version of ? I work and e-mail from an Alpha machine. > My clients don't know from nut'in about > >and > . > > It's a pain to have to move files to the MS machine and back just to archive/zip >them. Try : unzi

cc command

Hello again. I have a rather (I think) stupid question. I have a program wich calls on the cc command wich doesn't excist on my system. Wich package must I install (redHat 5.0) in order to make the command valid? Thanks. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCH

Re: Newbie. How to configure on Linux and Sun Mircosystems.

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, nearly comatose, James Hartley managed to scribble: ::Dave Wreski wrote: :: ::I thought that someone out there would have the ability to expound the ::documentation ::into a more tutoral form. I can read, but I was hoping for a more cookbook type ::of solution ::so that I wo

Re: Linux presence

I've had to set up IIS and SiteServer on WindowsNT boxes, and Apache servers on Linux boxes. For ease of setup, configuration and management, Apache wins my vote each time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/98 02:19 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joe Fer

Re: Newbie. How to configure on Linux and Sun Mircosystems.

Dave Wreski wrote: > > I realize that all of the material is probably in the documents but if > > someone could walk me through it, It would save me time and help me to get > > things running over the weekend. > > I got an idea, how about you invite us all over to your place, and we'll even > set

Re: Linux presence

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Hello, folks > >I need your help. I am trying to get my company to recognize linux >as a valid OS. > >I have found lots of information about specific companies that are >implementing Linux boxes, and lots of linux "Rah-Rah", but that >doesn't help. > >D

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Greg Thomas wrote: > Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir, > or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands. > What would motivate people to learn the OS this way? I have mixed feelings here. The first thing

Re: System halt, please HELP!

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > I have recently installed redhat 5.0. When I logged in as a user, my computer is >accidently power off. When I turned on the computer again, the Linux no longer work. > The message on the screen is > /dev/hda4 was not cleanly unmounted, check forc

Re: Linux version of PKZIP?

In article <017501bd5998$0869e2a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >-Original Message- >From: Bob Stanfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 10:06 AM >Subject: Linux version of PKZIP? > > >>Gentlefolk, >> >> Is there a Linux version of PKZIP? I work and e-mail from an Alpha

Re: SQL Server...

In article you write: >Is SQL Server and database program only an NT program? I have a client >that will gladly move his remaining applications to a linux enviroment >if he can still run SQL, someone help me please, this will be a big help >to the li

RE: Which Controller?

It sounds like you have a wide SCSI drive with the regular wide SCSI connector. There are other types of wide connection available, but the 68-pin version is the one used for internal, non-hot-swap drives. The pins are close together, which I guess is why you describe it as high density. I ca

Re: Jaz Drive and kernald. (or... More how do you get the darn Jaz drive working)

> modprobe /lib/modules/2.0.27/scsi/aic7xxx.o the module is not found > > any clues.? Just run 'modprobe aic7xxx' and let modprobe find the correct path. > running modprobe -c and looking at the path statements show that > > path[scsi]=/lib/modules/2.0.27/scsi You must have missed part of m

Re: X question(s)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::'Lo, all... :: ::I keep getting error messages when using X stuff telling me that it ::couldn't allocate this or that colormap. :: ::Why can't it? What do I have to do to get rid of these messages. Try using startx -- -bpp 16 to get 16 bit color wh

FvwmAudio Solved

I finally got FvwmAudio working. It seems that if I enter sounds in for a couple specific event types FvwmAudio crashs. Here is the basics of the setup: *FvwmAudioDelay 1 *FvwmAudio startup startup.au *FvwmAudio shutdown shutdown.au *FvwmAudio unknown unknown.au *FvwmAudio add_window add_window.a

Jaz Drive and kernald. (or... More how do you get the darn Jaz drive working)

Hey Dave: I recall that we were working on a problem with the jaz drive. If you are still interested in helping out I thought I would update you on the progress. as I recall we were working on getting the modules seen by the system. I ran the modprobe command and created the /etc/conf.modules fi

Re: X question(s)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I keep getting error messages when using X stuff telling me that it > couldn't allocate this or that colormap. > > Why can't it? What do I have to do to get rid of these messages. > > Also, isn't there a toggle of some sort for video resolutions?

RE: RH 5.1

Mike Wangsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:22:46 -0500 (EST), Ramin Sina wrote: > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I am deciding whether I should buy 5.0 or wait for 5.1. Since RH has not > >yet announced when 5.1 will be released, I was wondering based on their > >track record, how

X question(s)

'Lo, all... I keep getting error messages when using X stuff telling me that it couldn't allocate this or that colormap. Why can't it? What do I have to do to get rid of these messages. Also, isn't there a toggle of some sort for video resolutions? How do I get from 1024x768 256 to 800x600 32

Re: Newbie. How to configure on Linux and Sun Mircosystems.

> I guarantee you that by spending an hour figuring out the difference > between public-key and private-key encryption, and reading thru the > minimal ssh docs you will have this going. Additionally, you can get the pre-compiled RPM from ftp.replay.com and install that, which practically configu

Re: Newbie. How to configure on Linux and Sun Mircosystems.

> Most of these howto's leave a lot to be desired because they don't get into > trouble shooting > when there suggestions suck. Well, granted, the HOWTOs aren't always as explicit as we would like, but if we had the time to teach you each and every step that needed to be done, it would be merg

IPFWADM Help

Hi Folks :-) I have installed a Firewall (under RH 5.0) , works good . I set a firewall trafic , i have deny a firewall out trafic for this IP : ipfwadm -O -i deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 146.83.144.1 -P tcp This set to deny a firewall output to 146.83.144.1 IP . Well , the problems is that i don't wan

Re: RH 5.1

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Paul Anderson wrote: >> well what is "...how long in advance do they give the release date?" >> supposed to mean? My rule of thumb is when the web and ftp sites cease to function for a whole day or more. That is a pretty good clue they are mass-updating everything. --

Re: SyQuest Sparq in Linux ???

In linux.redhat.list, you wrote: >Does Linux support the EIDE SyQuest Sparq >drive (not the parallel port version) ? > >The hardware compatibility guide says it doesn't, >but I was just wondering if there was anything new. Mine works fine. I don't know why the hardware compatibility guide says

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE kill this thread. There's all sorts of advocacy > newsgroups that are extremely suited for bickering about little differeing > opinions or big differing opinions. I'm subscribed to this list because I > want to have access to valuable information and experiences, NOT opinion

FW: recompiling the kernal

> -Original Message- > From: Smith, Nathan A., Capt. > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 2:38 PM > To: 'Gcc help' > Subject: FW: recompiling the kernal > > > > -Original Message- > From: Smith, Nathan A., Capt. > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 8:01 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE kill this thread. There's all sorts of advocacy newsgroups that are extremely suited for bickering about little differeing opinions or big differing opinions. I'm subscribed to this list because I want to have access to valuable information and experiences, NOT opinions abo

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

---Reply on mail from Greg Thomas about Not a Desktop OS > Also, I see more newbies, like myself, make their first post to the list > because they want to know how to get rid of FVWM95 because they don't want > something that emulates Win95 and they want to try something new. > > Greg I sugge

Need help with RADIUS2.0 on RH 4.2

I got radius 2.0 from livingston's site and installed it on RedHat's Linux 4.2. When I ran the radiusd server the first time, it crashed and asked for libdb.so.1 (ELF). So I created a a link to the new libdb.so.2.0. Radius now starts, but always gives an error when trying to authenticate users.

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> >The basic problem with all this is that Linux is NOT a desktop OS > >like Win3/95 or OS/2 or the Mac. It's a high end server OS. I think Linux challenges the notion of "server OS" vs "desktop OS." And I believe the current (small) marketing efforts for Linux support this, although perhaps

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> > > > Adding aliases to the dist, IMO, would be very bad. People would use dir, > > or md, or whatever, without ever knowing the corresponding Linux commands. > > What would motivate people to learn the OS this way? > > > I use aliases for a lot of that stuff, but still need to some things

Re: RH 5.1

Bruce Tong Systems Programmer Electronic Vision / FITNE mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ev.net/fitne -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [

RE: thanks, but no thanks

> >Who the bloody hell reads the @#%^ing manual?! Pleezze. > > I am bizarre. I *like* reading manuals. Funny that. Most of the clued people I know (and I am blessed to know many) read manuals habitually and enjoy it. The others I'm conviced are reading the manuals under their covers with a fla

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

Joe Klemmer wrote: >The basic problem with all this is that Linux is NOT a desktop OS >like Win3/95 or OS/2 or the Mac. It's a high end server OS. >It's not even in the same category as Win95. ^^^ And Claire Bradford wrote: >Unix is an opertaing s

Re: RH 5.1

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: [snip] >I seem to remember sometime during last november (around the middle of >the month), someone from redhat posted a message to this list that indicated >a release was very near. This was no official announcement, but it was an >announcement nonetheles

RE: manuals WAS:thanks, but.. -Reply

Didn't realize this might have gender-specific implications, Jeff ;-). Is this like the man not wanting to pull over and ask directions?... cause I'm guilty and female too. I don't think it's gender, I just think it's human nature. Cheers, Beth:-) _

Re: thanks, but no thanks

-- | From: Lane J. Bryson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] /// Lane, the article in the latest issue of infoworld [Sandy ??] Mat > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: thanks, but no thanks | Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 3:10 PM | | Phil Risby wrote: | > | > Apart from a

Re: Internal Modem

I made the link /dev/modem to cua0 and cua1 and I sent this file to it 'ABORT' 'BUSY' 'ABORT' 'ERROR' 'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER' 'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE' 'ABORT' 'Invalid Login' 'ABORT' 'Login incorrect' '' 'ATZ' 'OK' 'ATDT9267773' 'CONNECT' '' 'Username:' 'imate' I did not hear anything about dialing..

FvwmAudio - can't get it working

After seeing seeing several posting concerning sound in fvwm95-2, I decided to give it a try. Even though I can execute "play intro.au" at the command line. When FvwmAudio does it, the window manager locks up. No errors are reported in the error log. Any ideas? David L. Martin<[EMAIL

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> > I'm afraid I need to disagree with this. I picked up linux mostly because > > I wanted to have some understanding of unix, but it does have potential to > > be a desktop os. Think about the ease of use complaints, the original > > poster complained about not knowing how to even change director

RE: manuals WAS:thanks, but.. -Reply

not to offend, butare you addressing a woman or man doing the install? think about it~~ OK OK! Not to say few EVER pick up a manual. Manuals and reference books are also all over my house, cube, server room, bedroom. My point was that how often does anyone start to install somethi

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

I'm using RH 5.0 on my desktop, and planning to upgrade my users to it : - RH 5.0 - StarOffice 4.0, when StarDiv issue a french version - Netscape Communicator 4 - Java intranet applications we're developping - MySQL ... We just need to choose comp

Re: Internal Modem

>>Are you trying to use the modem on com3 or com4? If so, don't. >>I've never gotten that to work correctly. > >I have. When dealing with COM3 and COM4, you have to keep in mind that >they're sharing IRQs with COM1 and COM2 (respectively). That means >that you can't have two active devices on t

RE: manuals WAS:thanks, but..

OK OK! Not to say few EVER pick up a manual. Manuals and reference books are also all over my house, cube, server room, bedroom. My point was that how often does anyone start to install something (anything, really) and RTFM before you get hung up. My install diskettes are in their drives and I'

Re: SQL Server...

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Joey Officer wrote: > Is SQL Server and database program only an NT program? I have a client > that will gladly move his remaining applications to a linux enviroment > if he can still run SQL, someone help me please, this will be a big help > to the linux community... > >

Re: Not a Desltop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> I'm afraid I need to disagree with this. I picked up linux mostly because > I wanted to have some understanding of unix, but it does have potential to > be a desktop os. Think about the ease of use complaints, the original > poster complained about not knowing how to even change directories. Wou

Re: Internal Modem

I dont have a serial mouse so I think that wont be a problem, so I just make the link to cua0 or cua1 wherever it works? __ Alfonso Barreto Lopez Inst. de Inv. de Matematicas U.N.A.M On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Steve "Ste

Re: MS<->Linux version of ?

i have a Linux version of rar, if it helps. -- Andrei Postolache, Romania, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux user -- -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscr

Re: thanks, but no thanks

the how-tos are probably the best "manuals" I've dealt with. They beat the hell out of the Windows NT docs (and the truth is, linux is in the class of OS that Windows NT is trying to be in) the LDP (linux documentation project) also puts out a lot of good stuff. If you did your install with the

Re: Internal Modem

Thanks for the answering... I am not sure in what device it should be working de internal modem, I dont even know if it was recognized, how can I see it? __ Alfonso Barreto Lopez Inst. de Inv. de Matematicas U.N.A.

Re: Not a Desktop OS (was: RE: thanks, but no thanks)

> I agree. I personaly don't like Windoze, but there are thing > Linux can learn from MS: mainly, some easy to use interfaces that can > help those who just bought Linux to configure their machines and learn > the basics, so they would be able to go deeper after that. Could be

Re: Problems getting Network up with NE2000 clone

Steve, That did it. Thank you very much. For anyone else who may read this later looking for an answer to the same question, I did have to correct a minor typo in the command "modprobe ne irq10 io=0x300" by changing it to "modprobe ne irq=10 io=0x300" Now, can anyone tell me where I should h

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