Re: autoscroll in kickoff

2008-12-14 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> How about having a place in the KDE trunk where you have all code for the > next release that didn't make it into KDE 4.2? Just an idea... > > Xtreme Kommander We (the KDE devels) already agreed to open trunk at some point before 4.2 release, see release team for that. In the meantime, the way

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf
On Sunday 14 December 2008 21:23:22 Steven wrote: > Unless the "Desktop" folder were a symbolic link to the "Downloads" > folder... but this might be confusing to the average user... Would plasma > able to tell the difference, so that as soon a the user implicitly > indicates they want a Desktop fo

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Chani
On December 14, 2008 22:16:06 Steven wrote: > I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. The file structure I'm proposing would be > completely abstract, and not really based on folders. Aaron's kind and > concise suggestion that nepomuk is a better candidate seems like a better > idea. > > However, there still i

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. The file structure I'm proposing would be completely abstract, and not really based on folders. Aaron's kind and concise suggestion that nepomuk is a better candidate seems like a better idea. However, there still is the problem that many applications put downloads in th

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Chani
> > For example, its hard to organize the files on the desktop. You have to > make the appropriate folders, make the appropriate folder views, then move > the files into these folders (or onto the folder views) and then, if you > want to also leave the file in the its original location so you can

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > > place or the other. If folder views could reduce their reliance on the > > file system, then setting this up could become a lot easier. > > nepomuk, for "files", and for everything beyond such a "liter

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > The problem is, it isn't just Firefox, its lots of programs. Until the does anyone have a list of the significant ones? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer spo

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > place or the other. If folder views could reduce their reliance on the file > system, then setting this up could become a lot easier. nepomuk, for "files", and for everything beyond such a "literal" represtenting going beyond those concepts by doing lik

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > constructive discussion, I chose not to. Please try to do the same > yourself, and not alienate your users. this list is not for users, any more than a room for engineering cars is for drivers. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint:

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Chani
> > If I'm way off, that I ask that you suggest something else, as, at the > moment, there are unresolved useability bugs that need attention, as > evidenced by the number of people looking forward to the folder view > desktop as an alternative to the plasma desktop. yes, you are way off... becau

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
Shoot! The title's supposed to be "Committing to a usable plasma desktop"! I am very sorry. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Steven wrote: > I think you may have taken offense to the title. This was not intended as > an insult. Let me explain why I chose it, and I'm sorry if any offense was >

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
I think you may have taken offense to the title. This was not intended as an insult. Let me explain why I chose it, and I'm sorry if any offense was taken. I am all for the concepts behind Plasma. I like the idea of organizing files, programs, and tools needed for a task in an activity for easy a

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
2008/12/14 Aaron J. Seigo > On Sunday 14 December 2008, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > > > Hey! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund > wr

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
You misunderstood me and insulted me when I was simply making a suggestion and looking for feedback. This is why many users feel alienated. My point was that the reliance of the folder view on the traditional file system is a hindrance, and that a second system, based on activities and logical grou

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > A few usability bugs (okay, maybe only one, but I like exaggeration as much oh, and let me just state that in deeply considering a shift in focus for 4.2, i was concerned that such drivel as this would be inspired by our work to provide compatibility w

Re: Help figuring out theming problem

2008-12-14 Thread Jamboarder
From: Marco Martin > > On Sunday 14 December 2008, Jamboarder wrote: > > I've been working on updating Aya for the 4.2 release. However, I've been > >running into a few problems that I'm having trouble figuring out. Below > > are some screenshot links showing my problems (click on image to sho

Re: A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Steven wrote: > What I propose as a possible solution to the Desktop problem is a symbolic > desktop file structure that resides in the Desktop folder. right, so instead of having a Desktop folder, we should have a Desktop folder full of standardized shit and people sh

Re: FrameSvg and masks

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > speaking with fredrikh about speed with window masks some things have > emerged: returning a qbitmap is a bit wrong, since it will have to be > converted to a qregion each time, so.. > should the framesvg mask function return a qregion? th

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Tony Murray wrote: > --- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ > --- > > Review request for P

Re: autoscroll in kickoff

2008-12-14 Thread Celeste Lyn Paul
On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:05:21 Alex Merry wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40:41 András Kéri wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm relatively new to KDE, and I would like to contribute, if I could. > > As a first try I made a patch which allows automatic scroll in > > application tab of kickoff,

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > > Hey! > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > > > The warning that the desktop

A usable plasma desktop

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
A few usability bugs (okay, maybe only one, but I like exaggeration as much as the next guy) have been popping up recently regarding how to deal with the Desktop folder. Users and applications alike are used to using it as a dumping ground for files, launchers and downloads. Most solutions have to

Review Request: Scrollbars for the comic applet

2008-12-14 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Hi, Here is a patch -- I lost my reviewboard pw and there is no link for that case ;) -- that adds scrollbars to the comic applet if the comic strips are shown at their original size but the applet was not assigned enough space. I'm not sure if my implemention is any good, so I hope that someon

FrameSvg and masks

2008-12-14 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, speaking with fredrikh about speed with window masks some things have emerged: returning a qbitmap is a bit wrong, since it will have to be converted to a qregion each time, so.. should the framesvg mask function return a qregion? this would of course break the api, so quite of a problem

Re: autoscroll in kickoff

2008-12-14 Thread Jesse L. Zamora
On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:05:21 Alex Merry wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40:41 András Kéri wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm relatively new to KDE, and I would like to contribute, if I could. > > As a first try I made a patch which allows automatic scroll in > > application tab of kickoff,

Re: sorting favorites

2008-12-14 Thread Jesse L. Zamora
On Sunday 14 December 2008 09:50:33 András Kéri wrote: > Hi, > > I've found no bug report against it, but the sort actions in favorites > tab don't work, as the slots missing from the favoritesmodel. > See the patch. > > Regards, > Andras Yikes, sorry about that, I guess that code got lost when as

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Steven
Unless the "Desktop" folder were a symbolic link to the "Downloads" folder... but this might be confusing to the average user... Would plasma able to tell the difference, so that as soon a the user implicitly indicates they want a Desktop folder, it is created separately? Or would it be possible t

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- (Updated 2008-12-14 11:20:56.528175) Review request for Plasma and Alex Mer

Re: Help figuring out theming problem

2008-12-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Jamboarder wrote: > I've been working on updating Aya for the 4.2 release. However, I've been > running into a few problems that I'm having trouble figuring out. Below > are some screenshot links showing my problems (click on image to show full > size). what it does se

Re: Help figuring out theming problem

2008-12-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Jamboarder wrote: > I've been working on updating Aya for the 4.2 release. However, I've been > running into a few problems that I'm having trouble figuring out. Below > are some screenshot links showing my problems (click on image to show full > size). it's quite a wh

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Fredrik Höglund
On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > Hey! > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user selects > > > "Show Deskto

Help figuring out theming problem

2008-12-14 Thread Jamboarder
I've been working on updating Aya for the 4.2 release. However, I've been running into a few problems that I'm having trouble figuring out. Below are some screenshot links showing my problems (click on image to show full size). http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ayacorrectej4.png shows an

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
> On 2008-12-14 09:10:47, Alex Merry wrote: > > /trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/nowplaying/nowplaying.cpp, lines 280-294 > > > > > > What happens if you Feeling Good by Michael Bublé playing, then the > > next son

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- (Updated 2008-12-14 09:52:34.949310) Review request for Plasma and Alex Mer

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Fredrik Höglund
On Sunday 14 December 2008 16:34, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > Hey! > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user selects > > "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully worked out in > > coordina

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- (Updated 2008-12-14 09:11:59.449832) Review request for Plasma and Alex Mer

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/#review296 --- Ship it! Apart from the comments below, it looks good to me. I'm

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- (Updated 2008-12-14 09:09:14.580208) Review request for Plasma and Alex Mer

Re: Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- (Updated 2008-12-14 08:37:50.083043) Review request for Plasma and Alex Mer

Review Request: Add tooltips to show current song when nowplaying is in the panel

2008-12-14 Thread Tony Murray
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/309/ --- Review request for Plasma and Alex Merry. Summary --- This adds a tool

Re: sorting favorites

2008-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
On Sunday 14 December 2008 15:27:25 András Kéri wrote: > Alex Merry wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:50:33 András Kéri wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've found no bug report against it, but the sort actions in favorites > >> tab don't work, as the slots missing from the favoritesmodel. > >> See

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Celeste Lyn Paul
On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > Hey! > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user selects > > "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully worked out in > > coordin

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
Hey! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user selects > "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully worked out in > coordination with our usability experts, so I thank you for not removing it. That's

Re: sorting favorites

2008-12-14 Thread András Kéri
Alex Merry wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:50:33 András Kéri wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've found no bug report against it, but the sort actions in favorites >> tab don't work, as the slots missing from the favoritesmodel. >> See the patch. > > Good catch. You able to commit this? I think no, a

Re: autoscroll in kickoff

2008-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40:41 András Kéri wrote: > Hi, > > I'm relatively new to KDE, and I would like to contribute, if I could. > As a first try I made a patch which allows automatic scroll in > application tab of kickoff, because it's really hard to navigate in long > lists without a mou

Re: Review Request: Make folderview follow some guidelines

2008-12-14 Thread Fredrik Höglund
On Sunday 14 December 2008 08:29, Artur (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > --- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > http://reviewboard.vidsolbach.de/r/307/ > --- > > (Upda

Re: sorting favorites

2008-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:50:33 András Kéri wrote: > Hi, > > I've found no bug report against it, but the sort actions in favorites > tab don't work, as the slots missing from the favoritesmodel. > See the patch. Good catch. You able to commit this? Alex signature.asc Description: This i

sorting favorites

2008-12-14 Thread András Kéri
Hi, I've found no bug report against it, but the sort actions in favorites tab don't work, as the slots missing from the favoritesmodel. See the patch. Regards, Andras Index: applets/kickoff/core/favoritesmodel.cpp === --- applets

Re: Review Request: Tooltip show the thumbnail not correctly centered

2008-12-14 Thread Loic Marteau
> On 2008-12-13 16:57:49, Aaron Seigo wrote: > > i don't think the checkSize from prepareShowing should be removed; it's ok > > to add it to showEvent, though. i do wonder, however: does > > layout()->activate() work as well in showEvent()? it *should* have the > > right size there, but maybe