2008/12/14 Aaron J. Seigo <ase...@kde.org> > On Sunday 14 December 2008, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > > > Hey! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund <fred...@kde.org> > wrote: > > > > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user > > > > > selects "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully > > > > > worked out in coordination with our usability experts, so I thank > you > > > > > for not removing it. > > > > > > > > That's why we are discussing this here and didnt commit > > > > anything...from aseigo's point of view it shouldnt never create > > > > automatically the folder thus making the warning useless. > > > > > > Because he doesn't want to promote the use of the Desktop folder? > > > Personally, I agree and strongly dislike the use of the Desktop folder, > > > but it is still part of the xdg folder spec isnt' it? I think it is a > > > better idea to actively support it than allow users to configure it > > er,... that's what we do: if the $DESKTOP path exists, as per xdg bullshit > spec compliance, we respect it. if we're dealing with an OS with a > forebrain > then we respect that and don't force the $DESKTOP brain damage upon that > poor > user. > > > While slightly off-topic in the discussion, I think it's important that > > when we want to change cross desktop standards that we do this in > > collaboration with the other desktops, > > yes, this needs to be taken to xdg. > > > and don't unilaterally start > > ignoring standards we've helped create, but now decided that we don't > like > > anymore. > > honestly, i'm not sure what the provenane of that spec is. fd.o is > fundamentally BROKEN in this manner, but i do know that i never supported > that > craptastic spec. > > > If we don't do that then we end up creating problems for users and ISV's > > alike. > > > > An example of such a problem in this case is that Firefox saves all > > downloaded files in the desktop folder by default. If we deny users > access > > to it, then they won't be able to find those files. > > which belong in Downloads, not Desktop. poluting that folder with anything > that isn't *desktop* oriented is so amazingly stupid that i sometimes > wonder > when software developers stopped thinking and just gave themselves up to > punching in lines of code. > > which is to say we need to communicate, albeit more politely ;) , to the > Firefox developers that they need to be putting their downloads elsewhere. >
The problem is, it isn't just Firefox, its lots of programs. Until the majority of programs use the Downloads directory, as they should, there has to be a way to make all downloads system wide go to the Downloads directory, unless specified to go elsewhere. This would be a kludge, but might be necessary. > > -- > Aaron J. Seigo > humru othro a kohnu se > GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 > > KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software > > > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > >
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