On Sunday 14 December 2008, Fredrik Höglund wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 17:09, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:34:22 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > > > Hey! > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Fredrik Höglund <fred...@kde.org> wrote: > > > > The warning that the desktop folder will be created when the user > > > > selects "Show Desktop folder" in the config dialog was carefully > > > > worked out in coordination with our usability experts, so I thank you > > > > for not removing it. > > > > > > That's why we are discussing this here and didnt commit > > > anything...from aseigo's point of view it shouldnt never create > > > automatically the folder thus making the warning useless. > > > > Because he doesn't want to promote the use of the Desktop folder? > > Personally, I agree and strongly dislike the use of the Desktop folder, > > but it is still part of the xdg folder spec isnt' it? I think it is a > > better idea to actively support it than allow users to configure it
er,... that's what we do: if the $DESKTOP path exists, as per xdg bullshit spec compliance, we respect it. if we're dealing with an OS with a forebrain then we respect that and don't force the $DESKTOP brain damage upon that poor user. > While slightly off-topic in the discussion, I think it's important that > when we want to change cross desktop standards that we do this in > collaboration with the other desktops, yes, this needs to be taken to xdg. > and don't unilaterally start > ignoring standards we've helped create, but now decided that we don't like > anymore. honestly, i'm not sure what the provenane of that spec is. fd.o is fundamentally BROKEN in this manner, but i do know that i never supported that craptastic spec. > If we don't do that then we end up creating problems for users and ISV's > alike. > > An example of such a problem in this case is that Firefox saves all > downloaded files in the desktop folder by default. If we deny users access > to it, then they won't be able to find those files. which belong in Downloads, not Desktop. poluting that folder with anything that isn't *desktop* oriented is so amazingly stupid that i sometimes wonder when software developers stopped thinking and just gave themselves up to punching in lines of code. which is to say we need to communicate, albeit more politely ;) , to the Firefox developers that they need to be putting their downloads elsewhere. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software
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