[Pan-users] cmake error bisected to bbdd7111f plus rules OR commentary

2025-04-04 Thread Duncan
hose that used rules at all, even fewer had reason to try the OR functionality and ever realize it was broken. (I haven't actually looked at mentioned TODOs in the mentioned branch; maybe you mention the missing OR implementation there?) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.

Re: [Pan-users] cmake error bisected to bbdd7111f plus rules OR commentary

2025-03-31 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:48:19 +0200 as excerpted: > On Monday, 31 March 2025 03:07:22 Central European Summer Time Duncan > wrote: >> CMake Error at pan/data-impl/CMakeLists.txt:1 (add_library): >> Cannot find source file: >> >> article-r

Re: [Pan-users] no system tray icon

2024-12-14 Thread Duncan
ime has passed. I don't carry a lot of patches locally but I do carry some, and it's nice knowing that I have and know how to use that option, where I do find my usage diverging /just/ enough from upstream that it's worth the hassle of digging up or hacking up a patch, wit

Re: [Pan-users] groups list disappear

2024-11-03 Thread Duncan
t I overstate my personal position, that's explicit best- case-presented devil's advocacy. In practice, I've not done enough binaries to personally be affected in years, and of course keep the header bar expanded for text usage. (Plus, multi-monitor helps too.) -- Duncan - Lis

Re: [Pan-users] options to set correct posting profiles and delete groups not on servers

2024-10-30 Thread Duncan
my late 50s), but then I took a "practice retirement" of 18 months during covid, and never got around to it even then, so realistically there's a 50/50 chance (more?) I /never/ will. Oh, well. When I bought that TB block several years ago (actually could be close to a decade

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.161

2024-10-24 Thread Duncan
Brian Morrison via Pan-users posted on Thu, 24 Oct 2024 22:02:13 +0100 as excerpted: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:08:15 - (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> > $ pan --debug >> [...snip...] >> icon.cc:43:load_icon_from_path) >> > Una

Re: [Pan-users] request (if this is the way to do it) for pan to be better at downloading ALL the headers.

2024-10-22 Thread Duncan
th new database code. The announcement can be found on-list as (including gmane.io newsgroup info, DD's email address deleted as gmane mungs those for spam control, spaces added around the @ in the message-id hoping to keep it from trying to mung that further too): From: Dominique Dumont Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gn

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.161

2024-10-21 Thread Duncan
led and found in /usr/share/pan/icons, but as DD mentions and as the debug above suggests, if you haven't set the cmake prefix it'll default to /usr/local/ so the icons should be under /usr/local/share/pan/icons/ . -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree

Re: [Pan-users] pan reformatting my posts

2024-10-20 Thread Duncan
message definition, remaining compatible with it but standardizing specific header and "message part" definitions for the purpose of standardizing attachments, allowing separate plain-text and HTML format message parts, etc. Among other things the MIME RFCs defined the MIME-type header

Re: [Pan-users] Trouble getting Pan release 0.160

2024-08-15 Thread Duncan
n > I will have time. Just keep in mind that custom colors are broken in 0.159. They're fixed in 0.160 and weren't yet broken in 0.158. If that doesn't bother you 0.159 will likely be fine. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has

Re: [Pan-users] Please test replacement of gtkspell with gspell

2024-08-12 Thread Duncan
tic" with "apocalyptic" above, so seems to be working as expected both building and in-use. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _

Re: [Pan-users] Automatic Preview of Messages When Selected

2024-08-04 Thread Duncan
now: grab the pan sources and patch them to make the defaults what you want, and rebuild pan, much like I did recently for pan's color customization when that was broken. That works... if you're determined enough to make it worth the trouble. (Tho for me as a gentooer that's n

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-27 Thread Duncan
read pan again without color-hack patches and without my eyes hurting! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pa

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-21 Thread Duncan
uses is a *lot* lower level and harder for a shell- scripting-admin-type reader (the once upon a decades-ago semester or two of pascal not withstanding) to grok and hack on! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-20 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:20:48 - (UTC) as excerpted: > 4) Body pane color display settings all remain at default, not applying > the custom color settings. So... After staring at the code and trying various dumb "I wonder if..."s for hours, I conceded my all to

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:38:52 - (UTC) as excerpted: > It should be mentioned, however, that unlike the other color settings > which have fg/bg pairs, only per-group fg colors are customizable. The > bg has no per-group setting and is always that set in the main >

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:10:04 - (UTC) as excerpted: > So the three big bugs so far remain: So while I had noted that my custom group-pane group-color settings had carried over properly, I hadn't actually tried changing any of them yet. But because those are the only

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:20:48 - (UTC) as excerpted: > [Just throwing in some fake nested quotes here to test them.] > >>>> third level quote As expected since it's body pane, that third-level quote (now 4th level) color was default as well. Further evi

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:01:10 - (UTC) as excerpted: > Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:10:04 - (UTC) as excerpted: > >> So the three big bugs so far remain: >> >> 1) The prefs/colors display code is not loading the user's custom >>

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:10:04 - (UTC) as excerpted: > So the three big bugs so far remain: > > 1) The prefs/colors display code is not loading the user's custom colors > for display, so it's always displaying app defaults. This appears to > apply t

Re: [Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:07:48 - (UTC) as excerpted: > There may be other bugs, and for sure the bugs above seem to apply to > more than Other Text, but it's hard to test and actually confirm > anything until it's being written to config and shows up in a > p

[Pan-users] Pan's new (May) rgb() color settings not working correctly

2024-07-17 Thread Duncan
efore the 0.159 version-bump commit, but the NEWS file doesn't appear to mention color changes, so maybe 0.159 is conservatively still on the old color code and hopefully 0.160 will have further fixes to the new color code. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "E

Re: [Pan-users] pan reformatting my posts

2024-06-11 Thread Duncan
pening the result in your text editor, at least if it's a single-segment article. That is, I /think/ pan simply copies the cached file to wherever you're saving the text, but I've never actually verified that, either by direct comparison or by

Re: [Pan-users] Removed deprecated StatusIcon

2024-06-09 Thread Duncan
but not (now) /that/ much harder once learned? Or is it more than that that isn't working? The post really didn't have enough detail to be sure, altho posting to this thread, especially with the 0.159 user-agent, did certainly imply it was only the status icon. -- Duncan - List re

Re: [Pan-users] improper Newsgroups: header wrapping and encoding

2024-05-07 Thread Duncan
ly /is/ the encoding, which as I said throws another wrench into things that I'm not familiar with -- it could be pan itself or another library responsible for that. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the p

Re: [Pan-users] running pan gives many errors

2024-05-07 Thread Duncan
ns are installed using > > https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/method.IconTheme.get_search_path.html > > I can’t see that function being used in pan so far. [ I don't have anything to add. ] -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -

Re: [Pan-users] running pan gives many errors

2024-05-07 Thread Duncan
o see if I can make some sense out of that sea and reply to the actual content, since it was in reply to me, even if I'm having trouble reading it! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and

Re: [Pan-users] running pan gives many errors

2024-05-07 Thread Duncan
ing an XDG-standards-compliant theme in place of adwaita in homebrew could help. Alternatively, there are fallbacks that can be configured (but adwaita doesn't, that being part of the controversy), manually if necessary. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program

Re: [Pan-users] Removed deprecated StatusIcon

2024-05-06 Thread Duncan
latively higher network speeds and faster solid- state "disks", there's less /need/ these days to have "a trayed/ backgrounding pan", than there was years ago when especially-cold-cache startup wasn't almost-instant and downloading a movie over dialup easily took days...

Re: [Pan-users] interface bug (or not?)

2024-03-13 Thread Duncan
ert I've been putting that off...) so it could be a few days... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pan

Re: [Pan-users] interface bug (or not?)

2024-03-13 Thread Duncan
Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:18:33 - (UTC) as excerpted: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:53:44 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > >> The other possibility would be adding smallish/mediumish sizes to >> options > > I think "configurable", either globally

Re: [Pan-users] interface bug (or not?)

2024-03-13 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 05:56:53 - (UTC) as excerpted: > In closer-to-plain-English pseudocode: > > First we have a broken-out boolean has_image_type_in_subject (), which > searches for image-extension strings ( jpg/gif/jpeg/png) in the subject > line, retur

Re: [Pan-users] interface bug (or not?)

2024-03-12 Thread Duncan
Jim Henderson posted on Sun, 10 Mar 2024 00:20:07 - (UTC) as excerpted: > On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 02:41:42 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > >> AFAIK it's not a size threshold per se, but rather, it happens with a >> message split into several parts (sub-messages, each sent sepa

Re: [Pan-users] no longer get message bodies

2024-03-08 Thread Duncan
t to actually lose what's in the cache) in the cache help? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pan-user

Re: [Pan-users] article cache size

2024-03-08 Thread Duncan
David Chmelik posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 18:24:47 -0800 as excerpted: > On 3/8/24 5:49 PM, Duncan wrote: >> David Chmelik posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 05:19:17 - (UTC) as >> excerpted: >> >>> What [cache] size do you recommend if I currently use 1,500+ >>> n

Re: [Pan-users] interface bug

2024-03-08 Thread Duncan
ever actually do a split like this, but the option remains and autosplitting still occurs if the split size is low enough to trigger it, which it can be if someone tries to attach too much and doesn't use some other form of pre-splitting.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.

Re: [Pan-users] article cache size

2024-03-08 Thread Duncan
David Chmelik posted on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 05:19:17 - (UTC) as excerpted: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:10:56 + (UTC), Duncan wrote: >> As to your question, years ago I was the person who asked to bump the >> max cache size from 1 GiB -- I needed 4 GiB at the time and it was

Re: [Pan-users] number of times one has to press to select multiple groups

2024-01-22 Thread Duncan
David Chmelik posted on Mon, 22 Jan 2024 06:34:53 - (UTC) as excerpted: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:05:24 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: > >> David Chmelik posted on Sun, 17 Dec 2023 07:32:10 - (UTC) as >> excerpted: >> >>> Every time I select multiple gro

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2024-01-04 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:06:37 - (UTC) as excerpted: > other than the missing cursors you still prefer the theme missing theme Ugh. "theme missing /them/"! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2024-01-03 Thread Duncan
ntire theme, but other than an initial pointer to the xcursor manpage that's well out of scope for this post and well beyond what I've done personally. But I do occasionally download new cursor themes and switch between them as the whimsy occurs, and have occasionally come across so

Re: [Pan-users] received no password from libsecret for server gmane.io

2024-01-03 Thread Duncan
helps. If that doesn't help, hopefully DD can help you further with the gnome- keyring/libsecret specific stuff. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

Re: [Pan-users] no longer can view sent articles

2023-12-31 Thread Duncan
get what everyone else does, complete with headers added by your server, any in- transit posting errors that resulted in the message not being what you intended, etc. But you'll have to do that via the group posted to, not sent messages, which likely never got to index it. -- Dun

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-12-25 Thread Duncan
David Chmelik posted on Sat, 23 Dec 2023 10:29:13 - (UTC) as excerpted: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 23:52:29 - (UTC), Duncan wrote: >> Duncan posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:06:32 - (UTC) as excerpted: >>> David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted:

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-12-22 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:06:32 - (UTC) as excerpted: > David Chmelik posted on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 14:43:08 -0700 as excerpted: > >> On 8/27/23 8:22 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: >>> On Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:07:02 CEST David Chmelik wrote: >>>

Re: [Pan-users] number of times one has to press to select multiple groups

2023-12-22 Thread Duncan
e likely firmware within the touchpad, or possibly the driver, in any case well below the application software level). I'll reread the other thread but my sense (from memory) is it's got us stumped now, and we don't know what else to do but commiserate. -- Duncan - List repli

Re: [Pan-users] articles don't stay marked read

2023-10-27 Thread Duncan
it first in case you want to refer to it for some reason) to start clean that way. (In theory you can manually edit the newsrc file too, but that's really only worth the trouble if there's only a handful of groups affected, not the ~1500 you mentioned. Far easier to just start clean.)

Re: [Pan-users] articles don't stay marked read

2023-10-16 Thread Duncan
allowing for gaps to be filled in due to held-but-already-numbered messages appearing later, etc. But if already read messages appear for whatever reason with sequence numbers pan doesn't have in its newsrc ranges, or conversely, if new messages appear with numbers already listed in tho

Re: [Pan-users] can't post articles

2023-09-17 Thread Duncan
for both fetching/reading and posting, at least as a workaround until you /do/ have occasion to do a proper distro upgrade. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard St

Re: [Pan-users] pan stops working/responding

2023-09-09 Thread Duncan
dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 8 Sep 2023 00:31:29 -0700 as excerpted: > On 9/7/23 2:26 AM, Duncan wrote: >> dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:20:07 >> -0700 as excerpted: >> >>> If I select a high-activity group

Re: [Pan-users] pan stops working/responding

2023-09-07 Thread Duncan
few days or weeks) was common, too, so most servers didn't /have/ more than a a couple hundred thousand headers on even their busiest groups. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master."

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-08-30 Thread Duncan
d in any case the issue there seems to be window-internal, not expressed in full main-window size, so unaddressable via window rule. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Ric

Re: [Pan-users] can't move anything

2023-08-28 Thread Duncan
t editor and look for lines like the following (where you replace date with whatever column name you want to change and nnn is the width in pixels, that being the number you'd change): -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every no

Re: [Pan-users] Memory usage question

2023-08-05 Thread Duncan
;autopoint": No such file or directory at > /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 293. A quick lookup on my gentoo system (where build-from-source is the default so it's setup for it) says /usr/bin/autopoint belongs to the gettext package. So if you don't have a gett

Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again

2023-07-31 Thread Duncan
Tom Tanner via Pan-users posted on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:44:34 +0100 as excerpted: > On 24/07/2023 14:49, Duncan wrote: >> The problem has to do with gtk icon-caching. When they're cached, as >> they are in most cases, no problem. But when a gtk-related update >> i

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2023-07-26 Thread Duncan
ide. Of course you can watch the build output to see what order they appear, tho with all the other flags about which libraries to link against, etc, the commandline tends to be pretty long so it can take either pausing or a practiced eye (and/or a slow CPU) to scan it on the fly.

Re: [Pan-users] got my header columns back but always crashing fast again

2023-07-24 Thread Duncan
read, yes. preferences.xml. Or you can try editing it (or save a copy when it's working and replace it when it goes wonky). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master.

Re: [Pan-users] no header columns again

2023-07-24 Thread Duncan
ve scripted my own mostly-automated workaround. The things we'll do to work around computer bugs in our favorite programs! =:^\ -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master.&quo

Re: [Pan-users] PAN NNTP Post sits in "Local Folders==>Sent" without reaching Newsgroup

2023-01-30 Thread Duncan
27;t? And finally, worth checking as it has happened to me and others... Ensure that under view menu, header pane, you don't have some combination of settings you forgot about that's hiding your posts, so the posts are getting to the group but you're just not seeing them due to pan

Re: [Pan-users] A question about scorefile usage

2023-01-08 Thread Duncan
uto-conversion is unwarranted complexity and a bug invitation too far), that will popup the first time the fixed version runs, then store the fact that it ran somewhere (new preferences.xml line?) so it doesn't need to bother the user again. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HT

Re: [Pan-users] Pan not working

2023-01-08 Thread Duncan
Dieter Britz posted on Tue, 3 Jan 2023 10:37:39 +0100 as excerpted: > Hi Duncan > > thanks for the suggestion. Does "reconfigure from scratch" mean > removing and re-installing pan? After, of course, erasing all those > files. Removing/reinstalling isn't what I

Re: [Pan-users] Pan not working

2023-01-01 Thread Duncan
tell what happened and possibly delete or edit only the bad part, keeping in mind of course that I already made a backup that's easy enough to restore and try again if I screw something up. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a mas

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.152

2022-11-16 Thread Duncan
pt in ~/bin first, since that appears first in my PATH, and runs the default text instance, setting up stuff accordingly for that before the script then calls "/usr/bin/pan" specifically, using the absolute path so as to avoid the script calling itself as would happen if it just calle

Re: [Pan-users] Pan for Windows?

2022-11-14 Thread Duncan
due to the HTML. Most clients have a plain-text-only setting that avoids the problem. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman __

Re: [Pan-users] The recent git merges broke pan's build for me, culprit 18f92b133

2022-10-01 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:35:27 - (UTC) as excerpted: > Dominique Dumont posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:39:39 +0200 as excerpted: > >> Duncan, can you try on your side ? > > I should get to it in a couple days. > > (... so this "weekend" (Sunday

Re: [Pan-users] The recent git merges broke pan's build for me, culprit 18f92b133

2022-09-27 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:39:39 +0200 as excerpted: > Duncan, can you try on your side ? I should get to it in a couple days. (Last week was more hectic than usual including replacing my water heater (!!) and making the last payment on my car loan =:^), so this "

[Pan-users] The recent git merges broke pan's build for me, culprit 18f92b133

2022-09-18 Thread Duncan
771e5655 still built against the new glibc, as did the immediately pre-culprit commit 503708583, so indeed the culprit is 18f92b133. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richar

Re: [Pan-users] Moving between panes ...

2022-09-12 Thread Duncan
so worth a try for those on low-resolution displays; kind of the opposite of my dual 75-inch 4K monitors, probably the reason I don't tend to use it. But for those who have trouble fitting all the panes in the room they have for pan I imagine it could be a god-sent.) -- Duncan - List replies

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2022-09-06 Thread Duncan
dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:43:11 -0700 as excerpted: > On 9/4/22 5:19 AM, Duncan wrote: >> dchmelik-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w posted on Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:37:53 >> -0700 as excerpted: >> >>> Like for past few years until earlier

Re: [Pan-users] how to turn off quoting?

2022-09-04 Thread Duncan
rg/web/20160417105503/http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ Pan-users mailing

Re: [Pan-users] pan always crashing fast again

2022-09-04 Thread Duncan
have the chance, try keeping the mouse out of the body pane and see if that helps it keep running. If it does, you very likely have the same bug I did, and /something/ I updated recently fixed it. If pan crashes before you get that far or when the mouse is elsewhere, you probably have a di

Re: [Pan-users] blind user of pan

2022-09-04 Thread Duncan
ng accessibility gets there's sure to be bugs in that still and you're the first I've seen reporting them. So you're already helping to fix them by just posting this. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a mas

Re: [Pan-users] Pan doesn't obey spaces?

2022-08-27 Thread Duncan
ve), proportional/monospace body pane view is an easy toggle: view menu, body pane, use monospace fonts. If you have a hotkey set to toggle that (my hotkeys are customized and I long ago forgot the defaults, "c" here) it's an easy toggle, perhaps /too/ easy as it occasionally confu

Re: [Pan-users] References header posting error patch?

2022-08-16 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:02:02 +0200 as excerpted: > On Sunday, 24 October 2021 09:45:56 CEST Duncan wrote: >> What gmime version are you building against? 3.2.7 (from March of >> 2020) or earlier? > > 3.2.7 > >> FWIW, gmime-3.2.7 here, bu

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-08-16 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Mon, 07 Mar 2022 19:48:27 +0100 as excerpted: > On Sunday, 6 March 2022 03:35:17 CET Duncan wrote: >> The tooling/scripts generally detect >> when .configure is outdated or missing and run the associated tools as >> necessary. > > Indeed.

Re: [Pan-users] haven't read your own sent messages?

2022-08-06 Thread Duncan
-gig for text messages so it's effectively permanent and I'm not sure if it erases sent messages from the cache along with other old messages when the cache gets full or not). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- a

Re: [Pan-users] collapsible hierarchies?

2022-07-26 Thread Duncan
quot;kids' time" categories, if that's what you want/need to do. Just make the "adult" one a script that you have to invoke from the commandline, maybe after mounting its PAN_HOME using the root password or something or it errors out, while the "kids" one ha

Re: [Pan-users] HTML Previewer - how to use?

2022-07-26 Thread Duncan
t only. > > I know there'd been some discussion in the past about doing some sort of > HTML rendering (or stripping, ala claws) to deal with situations like > that, but ultimately that discussion didn't really seem to go anywhere. > > In one of the discussions, Duncan men

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.150 on openSUSE 15.3

2022-05-16 Thread Duncan
it site.) [2] IDR the details but I remember seeing the git commit that was supposed to fix it. =:^) Tho FWIW I still have the rule set so I can't be sure it actually did. For the main window tho I only have a minimum size set, because pan seems to be sane with that, but sometimes I want

Re: [Pan-users] Help me please ! (PAN V.0.149)

2022-05-02 Thread Duncan
veloper's "nearly working" in a git comment does NOT correspond to "I think it's nearing release quality." But there's definitely some serious work going in. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --

Re: [Pan-users] pan on windows

2022-03-24 Thread Duncan
Tom Tanner via Pan-users posted on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:05:39 + as excerpted: > On 24/03/2022 04:23, Duncan wrote: >> Dominique Dumont posted on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 11:51:20 +0100 as >> excerpted: >> >>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2022 11:21:54 CET Tom Tanner via Pan-u

Re: [Pan-users] pan on windows

2022-03-23 Thread Duncan
to any documentation necessary to figure out how to do so, etc, and you've tested that said rescue disk/stick/etc is actually bootable...) Until that restore test has been completed successfully, it's an intended backup in process, not a backup. /rant --

Re: [Pan-users] error: plonked posters posts' showing up as new

2022-03-20 Thread Duncan
n processes the inefficient mess, and having them all processed before it displays anything (especially on a fast machine with plenty of RAM and NVDIMM storage, something my now decade-old machine is lacking, tho I did do the SSD upgrade from spun-glass on the SATA3s). -- Duncan - List repli

Re: [Pan-users] copy/paste from cat/more to Pan post format errors

2022-03-20 Thread Duncan
earches, for strings consisting only of several digits, or retrieving older entries from the clipboard history). As long as you just put something in the clipboard and use it without forcing it into history or triggering an action, it doesn't trim the whitespace. -- Duncan - List replies pr

Re: [Pan-users] server list broken

2022-03-14 Thread Duncan
. So you may need to dump the newsrc files and start over with that bit of the config, downloading the list of groups from each server again to initialize new newsrc files, and starting over with marking which messages you've already read. Your posting.xml file, which tracks the posting p

Re: [Pan-users] messages marked unread again

2022-03-14 Thread Duncan
, if it get marked unread, it'll still show up as cached and thus be easy to see that you've already processed it and can mark it as read again from that. (Click on the header of the column with the disk in it to sort by that, so all the cached ones are together and can be selected and

Re: [Pan-users] no title, author fields

2022-03-05 Thread Duncan
ing to do it manually. =:^) But as I said, gtk3 pan doesn't seem to have that bug (tho it does bring its own, including for me the crashing bug I mentioned in the 0.150 announce subthread). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-03-05 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Fri, 04 Mar 2022 14:27:34 +0100 as excerpted: > On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 21:27:57 CET Duncan wrote: >> My autotools foo isn't the best so I'm not entirely sure this answers your question, but... >> >> ./configure [snipped as it's

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-03-03 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 10:31:00 - (UTC) as excerpted: > Working here (gentoo, building from git), but still crashy. In > particular I've found pan crashes quite reliably if I hover the mouse > over the body pane, so apparently some pointer event triggering it. >

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-03-02 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Wed, 02 Mar 2022 19:02:34 +0100 as excerpted: > On Wednesday, 2 March 2022 11:31:00 CET Duncan wrote: > >> Working here (gentoo, building from git), but still crashy. In >> particular I've found pan crashes quite reliably if I hover the mouse &g

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-03-02 Thread Duncan
id triggering that crash), pan's reasonably stable. And some of my replies still aren't showing up, tho that's using gmane so could be a problem with its forwarding to the mailing lists or with the mailing list processing, as opposed to a problem with pan. It's also poss

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.150

2022-02-26 Thread Duncan
ired -devel packages already installed and only need the one or a handful that require newer versions now. Of course from-source distros (like the gentoo I run, and I believe arch as well, tho I believe it's binary for core packages, but doesn't split libs regardless) don't te

Re: [Pan-users] choosing right servers and removing inaccessible groups? (was: debugging? (segmentation fault))

2022-02-21 Thread Duncan
r server of choice after both the group-refresh and double-checking the posting profile setup it's possible you may have to edit something manually, but we can deal with that if we get to it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

Re: [Pan-users] References header posting error patch?

2021-10-24 Thread Duncan
already been applied, so I'm out of luck in terms of just applying an already available patch to fix it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman __

Re: [Pan-users] References header posting error patch?

2021-10-16 Thread Duncan
Dominique Dumont posted on Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:53:25 +0200 as excerpted: > On mercredi 6 octobre 2021 19:51:50 CEST Duncan wrote: >> Now that we're getting a somewhat workable pan again, the biggest >> remaining issue I've been seeing is the posting error due to pan >

[Pan-users] References header posting error patch?

2021-10-06 Thread Duncan
ot tested whether it's fixed in the last 10 days or so.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___

Re: [Pan-users] New maintainer

2021-09-23 Thread Duncan
was thrilled to see him show up and get those patches mainlined. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___

[Pan-users] New maintainer

2021-08-11 Thread Duncan
official repo, so he obviously has access there. Hopefully that means we get the gtk3/gtk4 and other build updates committed upstream reasonably quickly, and building pan against current libs won't be the pain it has become due to bitrot. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. &

Re: [Pan-users] I'm back! Was: can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2021-08-08 Thread Duncan
probably could stare and trial-and-error it in a day. But it shouldn't take a proper coder 10 minutes, maybe 20 including build-and-runtime-testing.) We'll see what transpires once I post those. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord,

Re: [Pan-users] I'm back! Was: can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2021-08-05 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Thu, 05 Aug 2021 23:35:43 + as excerpted: > I guess the way to find out is to send this and see! Hey, it posted! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master.&q

[Pan-users] I'm back! Was: can you run Pan 2 on anything but GNOME/Linux? (and how to donate?)

2021-08-05 Thread Duncan
Lacrocivious Acrophosist via Pan-users posted on Wed, 19 Aug 2020 01:22:53 + as excerpted: > Unfortunately we appear to have lost the individual embodying our > Institutional Memory, Duncan. His last posts are from 2018 and, given > his devotion to Pan over so many years and his

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