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> So far, so good with this transition. Happy 2019 to everyone.
Thanks for keeping this awesome service running. Happy New Year!
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So far, so good with this transition. Happy 2019 to everyone.
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Dear Friends,
The Mail Archive has been running for 20 years. It started
as hobby and grew into a small business 14 years ago.
We have now come full circle. The business will end on
December 31, 2018 and the service will revert to a hobby.
What happened? Well, traffic has steadily declined for
Next month will be the 20th anniversary of The Mail Archive.
We had a peaceful, sane year which is more than I can say
for much of the world.
No major changes to the service. Uptime was by far the best
ever, at 99.996%. Our previous best was just shy of 99.9%
in 2016. A few disks failed here and
Thank you for providing an excellent service!
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:32 AM, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
>
> A lot of crazy stuff happened in 2016. Looking back, what parts
> of that touched The Mail Archive?
>
> Let's start with mundane computer stuff. Uptime was great, t
A lot of crazy stuff happened in 2016. Looking back, what parts
of that touched The Mail Archive?
Let's start with mundane computer stuff. Uptime was great, the service
was online for the entire year except for 9 hours, 12 minutes. Some
additional hard drives were converted to SSD, and som
A more detailed response was sent over private mail, but the
short answers are (1) yes, as per FAQ (2) thanks for the
suggestion, will add it to the list of things to think about.
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OK, I'm ready with the archives to upload, with 2 questions before I do
so (actually, only the first question is related to the upload):
1. Shall I create the mail-archive entry first and have it start
auto-archiving new mail and wait until that's up and running before
sending y
This is probably going to work fine, and let's go ahead and give it a
try. If it doesn't work, we'll discuss, figure it out, and try again.
Yeah, I'm probably over-analyzing but getting to this point was
definitely useful since I now have more confidence what my scripts need
to do and what the
from headers for regular
inbound mail. Think of it as if Mail Archive was trying to put every
message in a folder, where the folder name is the posting address. The
folder name is indexed, so is available for search. You are exactly
correct about the 'l' parameter.
This is probably going to
Jeff,
Thanks again--more things are clear now. But your response raises more
questions in my mind as well. Please bear with me, we're almost there I
think.
Keeping in mind that I am splitting Digests into individual messages, I
have to fake whatever headers are not already there within the
The only things indexed for search are: message-id, subject, date (usually
extracted from the Recieved: header), sender name (extracted
from From: header), posting address (for example, gossip@mail-archive.com),
archival message number, and message body. Every message is sorted and
organized accord
1. Yes, we override list name on import.
OK, so they are threaded and paginated independently of what's in the
"To:" line.
2. Search will have no concept of alternative list names. There is no
reasonable way to overcome this.
Hmm, I don't understand this, given your answer to (1) above. If
1. Yes, we override list name on import.
2. Search will have no concept of alternative list names. There is no
reasonable way to overcome this.
3. Why not use the tool that Earl mentioned?
4. We always merge into the new list name and set up an HTTP redirect so
that the old URLs are not broken. Mer
Still working on processing the old email digests to convert them to
individual emails in mbox format for import.
Meanwhile, though, I thought of a new issue which has to do with
identifying the list name from the email headers, given that the list
name (and consequently the email address in t
Statute of limitations is typically 3 kilomessages on a normal
non-import list, but should (I think) be unlimited on bulk import.
Conversion to unix newlines is required and is manual; doesn't
matter who does it.
Still prefer to do whole import at once especially if tricky; less
labor, also less l
On 4/14/2015 9:25 PM, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
* I recommend doing the import all at once, rather than in
stages. Not for technical reasons, it just saves manual labor.
OK, I may do it in 2 stages, since 1/2 the archives are in mbox format
that can be imported instantly. The other half are in D
* I recommend doing the import all at once, rather than in
stages. Not for technical reasons, it just saves manual labor.
* Happy to make a tarball of the HTML after the import.
It will look like basic MHonArc output and cosmetically differ
quite a bit from what is served, because there is signifi
L of them available as a non-MIME digest, with a
>> fixed text separator (like a row of ) between messages. I would propose
>> to send these as an mbox format of digest files but each email in each
>> digest message would still need to be separated out. (a) Can mail-archive d
n of the archive, especially given
that it's static, but it would be great to have the mail-archive version
do it directly.
3. Is threading based on subject-line matching only (and if so, what if
the same subject happened to appear say 3 years later in a completely
unrelated thread)? Or is
First, it is very common and super easy to directly import from a
mailman (pipermail) archive. If the pipermail archive is publicly
online, just supply the URL to the support team.
The Mail Archive does not split digests back into individual messages.
That's way too scary. If a dige
from 1994.
Sounds very cool.
I would like to get these onto mail-archive but there are some
peculiarities of the existing archives that I have some questions on.
Here are the questions:
1. First the easy one. From April 2006 to the present, the lists were
hosted using mailman, so I have the
e big mbox-format file (about 50 MB). (a)
This is I suppose the most straightforward since I just send a pointer
to these files and the mail-archive staff will do the rest, correct? (b)
And am I correct that the single file is the best (rather than the
monthly gzipped files? And (c) that the
An annoyance with the latest design is that hyperlinks to move to the
next thread message are never in the same place.
In the previous design, a message could be read and the key 'end' used
to navigate to the end of the page. After moving the mouse the the
hyperlink for the next message, never nee
Okay, so here's a quick status update. There are have been suggestions about
fonts. Font weight. Line spacing. Typeface. Line spacing is interesting,
a big design goal was to make more information available with less scrolling.
However, we've found several references that suggest 1.4 is good in ter
Hi,
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Speaking of fonts: After reading a while in the archive I find the
> line-spacing a little excessive - it is currently at 1.4
>
> Personally I find 1.2 much more comfortable for longer posts.
Deviating from the 1.2 norm also messes up glyphs that span lines, e.g.
h
Hi Christian,
> Speaking of fonts: After reading a while in the archive I find the
> line-spacing a little excessive - it is currently at 1.4
>
> Personally I find 1.2 much more comfortable for longer posts.
Thanks for pointing that out; I've just changed to 1.2, which I think
is this browser's
Hi Jeff, *,
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> Thank you for the feedback, keep it coming.
>
> Interesting screenshots. By the way, my everyday platform is
> also Ubuntu (10.04 and 12.04). So far I can't reproduce font
> problems with courier.
Speaking of fonts: After read
>What I dislike is that visited links are indistinguishable from non
>visited ones. The difference in color just is way too little.
I didn't notice this until you mentioned it. Now it is driving me crazy.
Thank you for the feedback.
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Thank you for the feedback, keep it coming.
Interesting screenshots. By the way, my everyday platform is
also Ubuntu (10.04 and 12.04). So far I can't reproduce font
problems with courier.
As for the ordering of font-family, that's a good question. Let
me check with graphic designer.
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jeff Marshall wrote:
> [...]
> We've been finding and fixing bugs with the new design the last few weeks
> but please alert us to all the edge cases we've neglected to find ourselves!
>
> Feedback and bug reports are desired.
I like the new design Al
Hi Jeff,
> Can you share your browser + operating system including
> version numbers? If it is not too hard, a screenshot of
> a message page as well? Do you know what your browser
> zoom level is set to?
Browser is Firefox 11.0+build1-0ubuntu0.10.10.2 on Ubuntu 10.10.
Using
http://www.mail-archi
Ralph:
Can you share your browser + operating system including
version numbers? If it is not too hard, a screenshot of
a message page as well? Do you know what your browser
zoom level is set to? Feel free to reply privately if you prefer.
http://www.whatismybrowser.com/
http://www.smartsheet.com/
much nonsense
distracts from what I'm focusing on.
I don't see any corrupted fonts. It just would be nice if they were
darker though.
Sherry
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
>> We have been working on a new design for The Mail Archive mess
Hi Jeff,
> We have been working on a new design for The Mail Archive message
> pages. The goal has been to visually bring you to the message content
> faster. The subject and message are right there at the very top left
> of the page now.
`left' being too true. :-) On a ful
We have been working on a new design for The Mail Archive message pages.
The goal has been to visually bring you to the message content faster.
The subject and message are right there at the very top left of the page
now.
We've been finding and fixing bugs with the new design the last few
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:46 AM, e-letter wrote:
> Please offer the ability to search using international date format
> (-mm-dd) as a search criterion
Done. (Actually, this has always worked).
Please offer the ability to search using international date format
(-mm-dd) as a search criterion
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Hello, would you mind adding the following address to the mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This would allow the list to be archived via mail archive
<http://www.mail-archive.com>, which I think is much more searchable than
the standard mailman archives.
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Hello, would you mind adding the following address to the mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This would allow the list to be archived via mail archive
<http://www.mail-archive.com>, which I think is much more searchable than
the standard mailman archives.
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We have updated the front page of The Mail Archive
(http://www.mail-archive.com/). The changes are not too drastic
visually; they came out of a desire to make the front page more
relevant, intuitive and dynamic.
Our front page has always been proudly minimalistic. These changes add
more
In the Mail Archive for the Legacy User Group, the search feature does not
seem to work. If I type 'Legacy', I only get one result, for other terms
like 'data', 'file' or 'error' I get 'No matches wer
Thanks for the problem report. Even the manual override for search
indexing is acting really sluggish right now; there may be something
amiss. I'm looking into it.
Cheers,
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In the Mail Archive for the Legacy User Group, the search feature does not
seem to work. If I type 'Legacy', I only get one result, for other terms
like 'data', 'file' or 'error' I get 'No matches were found.'
Is there something we n
t we want to do.
Comments from the peanut gallery are - as always - appreciated.
Cheers,
Jeff
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01006.html
[2] http://www.mhonarc.org/mharc/doc/
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Just a quick update. Following contacts with him and his ISP, he has
removed the most obvious copied portions from his FAQ.
Jeff
Jeff Marshall wrote:
We thought it'd be a good idea to let users of The Mail Archive know
about a copycat site that we are dealing with. Back in April we
We thought it'd be a good idea to let users of The Mail Archive know
about a copycat site that we are dealing with. Back in April we found
that someone in Australia had copied a significant portion of the
mail-archive.com website and then changed the logo at the top and
inserted his ow
Dear Jeff,
Please note that the webpage at www.mail-archive.com/wahome@topica.com/msg00333.html currently
violates FDA and FTA guidelines for advertising and must be taken down. See the
notice below for reference.
I would apreciate it if you remove the page above
before Decemner 13th
Wa
stem partitions. We usually do partition copies when moving data
around because it's fast (on the order of 5 to 8 hours). However, the
filesystem partitions for The Mail Archive have existed and been moved
around for years. We want to have a clean partition for the first time
in a long time
Jeff,
My two lists are moderated - so I am filtering them myself (Hasafran and
Heb-NACO)
Thank you for a GREAT service,
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We have signed up The Mail Archive with the Postini virus & spam blocking service.
We're trying it out for a month to see how well it works.
We activated it over the weekend. Please alert us if you think a message may have
been blocked. We are sifting through the quarantined message
> Another semi-related suggestion is to define tags
Ok, implemented on the beta site. You can see the effect in Mozilla by
turning on the site navigation bar.
View-> Show Hide -> Site Navigation Bar
>I suppose one could argue whether [Mail Archive mangling URLs
>to itself
tion of the nav links is good since
a person does not have to scroll back to the top when they reach the
end of the page.
You can replicate the "framing" design at the top (excluding the mail
archive logo and list name) on the bottom and replicate the nav links
withing the grey area.
Ano
%40". But most links to the mail-archive (e.g., those at
http://unagi.mail-archive.com:8080/lists.html) use the unencoded @, as
do Google search results... So I usually cannot just cut&paste
mail-archive URLs into messages and have them work in the archive
itself.
I suppose one could argue
>I would add index and {next,previous}-by-date links to the bottom of
>each message page.
Do people have a specific preference where this would go and what it might
look like?
>As long as you are tinkering with the HTML generation, you might
>consider making it pass the W3 validator (http://vali
Jeff Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is not a functional overhaul; for the most part, it is
> cosmetic. We are switching to a full CSS design which will gives us
> all (Jeff and I, as well as all of you soon) a lot of flexibility.
Very pretty!
As long as you are tinkering with the HT
On 24 Jul 17:45, Jeff Marshall wrote:
> We'd like to open the floor to criticisms, complaints, bugs, overall
> impressions, etc. We only have two partial list archives to look at on
> this beta site. We can add some more if it would help people comment on it.
I would add index and {next,previo
Here's a direct link to a beta version message page.
http://unagi.mail-archive.com:8080/gossip%40jab.org/msg00065.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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Jeff Breidenbach and I would love to have everyone's feedback on a beta
version of a new look for The Mail Archive:
http://unagi.mail-archive.com:8080/
We'd like to open the floor to criticisms, complaints, bugs, overall
impressions, etc. We only have two partial list archives
Hicham,
On 10/06/2004, at 11:11 PM, Hicham GHORAYEB wrote:
Hi,
I am new to the Mail-Archive, i would like to add a new Mailing List to
the Mail Archive, and i didn't understand the description in the FAQ
text.
It couldn't get much easier really, just add [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as a subscrib
Hi,
I am new to the Mail-Archive, i would like to add a new Mailing List to
the Mail Archive, and i didn't understand the description in the FAQ
text.
Please help me, how to create a new mail archive,
Thanks in advance,
Regards
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PROTECTED]/ - actual archive
Both come up when you search for bltech on The Mail Archive homepage.
Please let me know if it is still missing messages.
Jeff Marshall
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-Original Message-
From: Eric Vaughan -- illustro Systems
Date: 6/1/04 9:20 am
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj
I just added one of our lists to the mail archive by adding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to the subscription list. The list is called
BLTECH. I sent a test message shortly after the subscription, and it showed
up, but ever since then (1 week), none of the other messages posted on the
list are showing up
The Mail Archive is processing incoming messages again. We've finished our storage
maintenance and everything is back to normal.
We are giving new incoming messages the highest priority. We are processing the
messages that have been on hold the last couple weeks quietly in the background
Hi all,
February marks the 6th birthday of Mail-Archive. This is a pretty big
birthday for an internet service - not too many make it this far. As
some of you remember, the service started as a tiny experimental hobby
project. Six years ago, Mail-Archive was running off a residential
cable modem
Hi all,
I completed my first cross country ski marathon yesterday. It was a lot
of fun and I highly recommend the experience.
In other news, Mail-Archive ran a short duration ad experiment a few
days ago, comments appreciated. In general things seem to be going well.
Latency seems fairly low
Just looking at the OOPS message makes me suspect I hit a kernel bug.
I ran a memory tester when I originally acquired the machine. It's
possible that some flaw has developed between now and then or we got
hit by a particularly bad cosmic ray.
It's funny, hardware generations change so quickly. I
kernel oops is memtest86. Bad memory may or may not be the case, but
anyway narrowing down the source of problem is a good thing.
Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
Mail-Archive went down this morning arond 6am Pacific time and was
offline for several hours. When I eventually noticed, I went over to
the
Mail-Archive went down this morning arond 6am Pacific time and was
offline for several hours. When I eventually noticed, I went over to
the facility to poke around. The computer had crashed, with a nice
"OOPS" message from the linux kernel that looked to me like a null
pointer in t
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
>
> Speaking of statistics, I ran the web server statistics for the past
> week and put them at the usual place [1]. The analysis program claims
> that about 25% of all accesses to Mail-Archive are from "robots" like
> Google. I
that about 25% of all accesses to Mail-Archive are from "robots" like
Google. I don't know how much stock to put in those numbers; the tool
may be underreporting. The other neat stat from my perspective is that
half a million unique hosts visited Mail-Archive last week. If
Mail-Arc
>I assume you've asked your colo people directly, rather than trying
>to interpret their written rules?
Your assumption is correct. The main issue is the colo organization
is a non-profit legal entity, which has special meaning and
requirements under US tax law. They are going to double check wi
On 15 Jul 2003, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> It's not totally clear yet, I don't think Mail-Archive will
> be able to run ads after all. This is due to the policy of
> the colocation organization.
>
> I did go ahead and set up an experimental page to see what
> these
Jeff Breidenbach пишет:
It's not totally clear yet, I don't think Mail-Archive will
be able to run ads after all. This is due to the policy of
the colocation organization.
What if all revenue from adsence at your site will go straight to them?
I did go ahead and set up an experimental p
It's not totally clear yet, I don't think Mail-Archive will
be able to run ads after all. This is due to the policy of
the colocation organization.
I did go ahead and set up an experimental page to see what
these things might look like. They seemed to do an ok job
drilling down to t
On July 14, 2003 at 22:48, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> Earl, I'm also worried about me changing my mind - where to
> put the AdSense, whether to use it at all. So I'm
> tempted to make the changes as unpermanent as possible
> at first. Hopefully there is an Apache module that can do a
> simple sear
kes sense or is worth it;
it's not like Mail-Archive is in serious financial danger or
anything. But it seems like an easy enough thing to experiment
with, and it would be nice if Mail-Archive was self supporting.
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On July 14, 2003 at 20:34, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> The static page nature of Mail-Archive might be a problem, as
> it doesn't lend itself to experimentation. I might have to tell
> apache rewrite the pages before shipping them out or something,
> which could be a pain.
You
> I think it's a good way for a site like yours,
> with a lot of page views, to make money.
Well, "making money" is probably the wrong idea. Mail-Archive
utilizes a network that forbids commercial for-profit
use. I don't expect ads to be particularly lucrative.
And, I&
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, William J. Kammerer wrote:
> As long as there are no annoying pop-up ads, I don't see any problem
> with a discreet ad banner - which would be ignored anyway. Of course,
> you also can't have a mandatory click-through like Yahoo! groups,
> either.
>
If they were ignored, he
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
>
> So I just heard about Google AdSense, which appears
> to be a fairly easy way to put text based ads on a website.
> I wonder if that makes sense to add to Mail-Archive.
> I doubt it would generate a significant amount of money,
>
rom: "Jeff Breidenbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: [Gossip] Survey: Google AdSense on Mail-Archive?
So I just heard about Google AdSense, which appears
to be a fairly easy way to put text based ads on a website.
I wond
So I just heard about Google AdSense, which appears
to be a fairly easy way to put text based ads on a website.
I wonder if that makes sense to add to Mail-Archive.
I doubt it would generate a significant amount of money,
but it might help to defray costs without pissing off
too many users
Bad news. Mail-Archive is having problems with an important partition
(Input/output error) that did not clear up with a remote reboot. Looks
like I'll need to get physical access and figure out what's
wrong. Expect downtime all day lo
TO DO:
0: Switch to MHonArc 2.6 [done]
1. Activate total address blocking in message body for new message [done]
2: Refactor hardware from tower to rackmount
3: make decision about confirmation archive
4: Think about character encoding capabilities of MHonArc,
configuration changes and sear
Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> 5) Regarding the common "phrase search" feature request, it looks
> like htdig 3.2 is nowhere near ready to go, so that's not
> happening any time soon.
Again, what about giving ASPseek a try? I'm one of developers ;)
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Lots of news on next generation system:
1) Configuration work {exim, htdig, analog, bind, mailmen ...} is
done. System is running great in shadow mode. Many thanks to my
padwan.
2) TODO: insertion into final network and switchover.
3) HTML page count is about 10 million; I'm consu
lties in the archive of messages... but the
>messages of our Mailing List are not filed on the Mail Archive (at
>http://www.mail-archive.com/forum.help400@combios.es/ ) from the 2002-06-18.
>
> Starting from then and until now I have remained awaiting that the problem is
>solved
Hello...
In first place, pardon for my terrible English
(product of an automatic translator). I know that there have been difficulties
in the archive of messages... but the
messages of our Mailing List are not filed on the Mail Archive (at http://www.mail-archive.com/forum.help400
>Suddenly, the [archive is] not working. Can you help please?
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg00475.html
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Dear
Support,
I've create Tsolver
Mail Archive in May-2001. and the link was:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tsolver%40yahoogroups.com/
The main group
is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsolver
Suddenly, the group
Mail Archive not working. Can you help please?
Regards
...Amrow
Hijazi...
I ran across your site, and thought it was quite convenient. Maybe you
might contact dc-sage.org at www.dc-sage.org, about archiving their stuff,
not that they don't do it already, but it might be beneficial for everyone.
L8r,
Brandon Pepelea
President, NSACC
310-863-9939
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>Does this mean that the lists will be updated, or are the posted bits
>gone for good on this site?
The several hundred megabytes of mail queued up will be archived
eventually. They are being put aside for the moment while I make
performance enhancements to the service. I do not know when eventu
No new messages appear to have been archived for a number of groups
after the 5th of this month, e.g. tomcat-dev and jboss-development.
These are very active lists so it's not as if there might have been no
postings in the last 12 days. So what's up? Is mail-archive near death -
not bei
less serious explanation involving a huge mail backlog ... will send
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this soon.
-Jeff
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Hi,
The mail archive of the orion-server
http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest%40orionserver.com/ is partially
broken;
When I use the link Earlier messages from every page is working fine until
file link
http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest%40orionserver.com/thrd10.html
when the page
==
PS. For technical people with time on their hands, who have read the
mail-archive source, and who are interested in debugging (HAH!) the
following header sorted under [EMAIL PROTECTED] despite
the existance of the following list archives. If someone wants to do
the analysis, great, otherwise
e x-mailing-list header), perhaps you could have a
>wildcard address to send lists to? For instance
>[listname][EMAIL PROTECTED]? I subscribe to one list called
>"rbl-nominate", so if it couldn't be archived for whatever reason by
>Mail Archive normally, I could request t
>Comments ? Suggestions ? Possible change request (Jeff ?) ??
Change request denied.
I do not consider it mail-archive's role to mangle email addresses
contained in the body of messages. Personally, I don't think
archiving services should be mangling message bodies, period.
I consider heade
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