Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-18 Thread Yassine Chaouche
_malloc_debug.so.0 /usr/i686-linux-gnu/lib/libnsl.so.1 /usr/i686-linux-gnu/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/i686-linux-gnu/lib/ /usr/local/bin/ssacli Smart Storage Administrator CLI 2.65.7.0 ^C root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ #

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-16 Thread Yassine Chaouche
~ # ssacli ssacli: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/i686-linux-gnu/lib/ /usr/local/bin/ssacli Smart Storage Administrator CLI 2.65.7.0 ^C

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-16 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/13/25 à 14:33, Erwan David a écrit : You can get the layout with lsblk, IIRC I'm not an expert on the subject, but from the few man pages and online help I've gathered, I have come to understand that the system (and lsblk) only see logical disks. Physical disks are hidden behind the RAID

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-15 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 02:08:21PM CET, Yassine Chaouche said: > Le 3/12/25 à 23:11, Michael Stone a écrit : > > Two of the drives are dead, you're not going to see anything from them > > So this means I can't rely on smartctl to list physical disks, > which implies that, > for servers I didn't

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:36:46 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > I guess I don't understand how you expect smartctl to query a dead > disk. It's dead, that means it's not going to respond. Not quite. The electronics may respond even if the head-disk assembly (HDA) is broken. It probably won't give a co

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 11:35:08AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:36:46 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: I guess I don't understand how you expect smartctl to query a dead disk. It's dead, that means it's not going to respond. Not quite. The electronics may respond even if the

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 02:08:21PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 3/12/25 à 23:11, Michael Stone a écrit : Two of the drives are dead, you're not going to see anything from them So this means I can't rely on smartctl to list physical disks, I guess I don't understand how you expect smartc

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-13 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/12/25 à 17:51, Greg a écrit> According to my (very old) scripts you should use something like /dev/cciss/c1d0 instead of /dev//sg? It could be the old driver/kernel module interface. The one I have is /dev/sgx. I have no /dev/cciss* present. Besides, for HP Smart Array, the exam

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-13 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/12/25 à 23:11, Michael Stone a écrit : Two of the drives are dead, you're not going to see anything from them So this means I can't rely on smartctl to list physical disks, which implies that, for servers I didn't install, I need to know their RAID setup in advance, or at least the total n

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-12 Thread Michael Stone
o see anything from them and this is the output from cciss root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # cciss_vol_status -V /dev/sg0 Controller: Smart Array P420i Board ID: 0x3354103c Logical drives: 2 Running firmware: 3.22 ROM firmware: 3.22 /dev/sda: (Smart Array P420i) RAID 1(1+0) Vol

Re: Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-12 Thread Greg
  /dev/sdb   /dev/ sg2   2.00TB   root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # and this is the output from cciss   root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # cciss_vol_status -V /dev/sg0   Controller: Smart Array P420i     Board ID: 0x3354103c     Logical drives: 2     Running firmware: 3.22

Accessing individual disk's SMART diagnostics behing a physical RAID

2025-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # and this is the output from cciss root@messagerie-recup[10.10.10.22] ~ # cciss_vol_status -V /dev/sg0 Controller: Smart Array P420i Board ID: 0x3354103c Logical drives: 2 Running firmware: 3.22 ROM firmware: 3.22 /dev/sda: (Smart Array P420i) RAID 1

Re: Smart UPS-communication setup failure against linux cluster

2024-11-18 Thread john doe
On 11/18/24 12:45, Gupta, Tulika wrote: Dear support team I have purchased a new APC UPS which I want to connect with four Linux Debian clusters. The APC UPS Model: SURTD3000XLIM (APC model) has one serial com connector and one USB connector on the back of the UPS. Two cables were provided al

Re: Smart UPS-communication setup failure against linux cluster

2024-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:45:33 + "Gupta, Tulika" wrote: > The APC UPS Model: SURTD3000XLIM (APC model) has one serial com > connector and one USB connector on the back of the UPS. Two cables > were provided alongwith the UPS purchase- a) RJ-45 to DB-9 > communication cable (goes to the serial c

Smart UPS-communication setup failure against linux cluster

2024-11-18 Thread Gupta, Tulika
Dear support team I have purchased a new APC UPS which I want to connect with four Linux Debian clusters. The APC UPS Model: SURTD3000XLIM (APC model) has one serial com connector and one USB connector on the back of the UPS. Two cables were provided alongwith the UPS purchase- a) RJ-45 to DB-

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-10 Thread Franco Martelli
On 09/10/24 at 21:10, Jochen Spieker wrote: Andy Smith: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? For more than a decade mdadm has s

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Andy Smith: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: >> Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it >> fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? > > For more than a decade mdadm has shipped with a service that runs i

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it > fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? For more than a decade mdadm has shipped with a service that runs in monitor mode to do thi

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-09 Thread Franco Martelli
On 08/10/24 at 20:40, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 04:58:46PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Why is the RAID still considered healthy? At some point I would expect the disk to be kicked from the RAID. This will happen when/if MD can't compensate by reading data from other m

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
is exactly that. It has been running mostly uninterrupted in my basement. Max temp from the past 12 months (as far as I can tell by looking at aggregated data in munin) is 36°C. That should be fairly ideal. > Also note that some disks actually lie in SMART data. I don't know if >

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
e...@gmx.us: > On 10/8/24 16:07, Jochen Spieker wrote: >>| Oct 06 14:27:11 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9361257600 op >>0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 150 prio class 3 >>| Oct 06 14:27:30 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9361275264 op >>0x0:(READ) flags 0x4000 phys_seg 161 pr

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Kjörling
ive is dying, slowly. In this case it's starting with a > bad patch on a platter. That would be my take too. The LBA sectors reported in a different post in this thread being as close as they appear to be would also corroborate the platter issue theory. >> | SMART Attributes Data Str

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread eben
On 10/8/24 16:07, Jochen Spieker wrote: | Oct 06 14:27:11 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9361257600 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 150 prio class 3 | Oct 06 14:27:30 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9361275264 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x4000 phys_seg 161 prio class 3 | Oct 06 1

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Jochen Spieker
several times, so the drive's timeout is > multiplied. Only if this ends up exceeding 30s will you get a read > error, and the message from MD about rescheduling the sector. That makes sense. And might also explain why the disk does not report any reallocated sectors (yet). > Ho

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Jochen Spieker
Dan Ritter: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> The sector number mentioned at the bottom is increasing during the >> check. > > So it repeats, and it's contiguous. That suggests a flaw in the > drive itself. It definitely looks like that: | Oct 06 14:27:11 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Andy Smith
icked from the RAID. This will happen when/if MD can't compensate by reading data from other mirrors and writing it back. If a write fails, or a disk drops out entirely, then MD will fail the device. Hopefully the results of your SMART long self-test will help clear this up. These things can be

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Dan Ritter
d me to believe that a cable / the SATA controller is at > fault? I don't even see any errors with smartctl: If the sectors were effectively random, a cable fault would be likely. If the sectors are contiguous or nearly-so, that's definitely the disk. > | SMART Attributes Data Stru

I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

2024-10-08 Thread Jochen Spieker
pm | Device is:In smartctl database 7.3/5319 | ATA Version is: ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b | SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) | Local Time is:Tue Oct 8 15:15:22 2024 CEST | SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. | SMART support is: Enabl

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 25 February 2024 06:33:26 pm gene heskett wrote: > On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote: > >> I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, > >> 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's. > > > >

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Well, I was merely hoping that someone might finally have come up >> with a working solution ... > Stop smoking, lose weight, have a healthy diet and exercise. And most importantly: be lucky! Stefan

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 2:47 PM hw wrote: > > Well, I was merely hoping that someone might finally have come up with > a working solution ... Stop smoking, lose weight, have a healthy diet and exercise. Jeff > On Mon, 2024-02-26 at 13:07 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Feb 26,

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Loïc Grenié
On Mon Feb 26th, 2024, at 15:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > I have only one enabled radio, in a 3d printer, lists all the neighbors > wifi routers it scans for and I assume the neighbors can hear it, but > this things login id does not appear in its scan. Maybe its duff, IDK. > I seriously doubt

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread hw
Well, I was merely hoping that someone might finally have come up with a working solution ... On Mon, 2024-02-26 at 13:07 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:24:34PM +0100, hw wrote: > > How does the watch you got measure blood sugar? Doesn't that require > > a blood s

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread hw
On Mon, 2024-02-26 at 09:48 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/26/24 06:25, hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 10:03 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > [...] > > > bluetooth, and It looks as if I have to buy a BT adaptor, so advise on > > > that front would be most welcome also. > > > [...] > > > >

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread hw
On Mon, 2024-02-26 at 13:21 +0100, Hans wrote: > [...] > However, on my mobile a pairing password or number is not needed and for > pairing the special app is also not needed on the mobile. > > This let me conclude, some other thing I must have missed. > > For testing purposes I used kde in-buil

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I have only one enabled radio, in a 3d printer, lists all the > neighbors wifi routers it scans for and I assume the neighbors can > hear it, but this things login id does not appear in its scan. Maybe > its duff, IDK. Bluetooth is not WiFi. Different protocols. https://en.wikiped

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread gene heskett
On 2/26/24 07:21, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 26. Februar 2024, 12:24:34 CET schrieb hw: If you're locking for a bluetooth USB adapter: I have a 'Bluetooth 5.0' adapter from TP-Link which works with Fedora. I've been able to use it with a headset and an xbox controller. A smartphone and an IP phone

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread gene heskett
On 2/26/24 06:25, hw wrote: On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 10:03 -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] bluetooth, and It looks as if I have to buy a BT adaptor, so advise on that front would be most welcome also. [...] If you're locking for a bluetooth USB adapter: I have a 'Bluetooth 5.0' adapter from TP-L

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:24:34PM +0100, hw wrote: > How does the watch you got measure blood sugar? Doesn't that require > a blood sample? Some of them claim to extrapolate it from sweat, others claim to be able to estimate it from shining near-infrared at the blood vessels that are near t

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 26. Februar 2024, 12:24:34 CET schrieb hw: > If you're locking for a bluetooth USB adapter: I have a 'Bluetooth > 5.0' adapter from TP-Link which works with Fedora. I've been able to > use it with a headset and an xbox controller. A smartphone and an IP > phone also show up as devices,

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-26 Thread hw
On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 10:03 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [...] > bluetooth, and It looks as if I have to buy a BT adaptor, so advise on > that front would be most welcome also. > [...] If you're locking for a bluetooth USB adapter: I have a 'Bluetooth 5.0' adapter from TP-Link which works with Fe

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Feb 2024 at 18:33:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote: > > > I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, > > > 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's. > > >

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-25 Thread gene heskett
On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote: I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's. More than that. My certificate number is PA-230... Mine is NB-116, so they m

Re: /etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches]

2024-02-25 Thread gene heskett
On 2/25/24 07:14, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: I have to agree, and pursuing that seems to disclose I do not have the non-frre in my configs. So I'm now asking for help to add it to my /etc/apt/sources *.list stuff. For apt sources.list - have a look at: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList Th

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-25 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote: > I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, > 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's. More than that. My certificate number is PA-230... -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and

/etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches]

2024-02-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 05:16:21AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/25/24 03:36, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:05:50PM -0500, Lee wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote: > > > > > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, a

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-25 Thread gene heskett
a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I bought one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-25 Thread Geert Stappers
> > As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of > > > trulicity, a > > > weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose > > > levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I > > >

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread gene heskett
On 2/24/24 12:36, gene heskett wrote: On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use. But I'm that curios cat. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. So I just installed the only dri

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread Mariusz Gronczewski
t; > trulicity, a > > weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood > > guclose levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month > > back I bought > > one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor > >

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread Andy Smith
I bought one of the > so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar. I'm having some difficulty translating your words and acronyms but I think I got the gist that you're type II diabetic and have bought a watch for glucose monitoring? I'm also a type II

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread Lee
> > trulicity, a > > weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose > > levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I > > bought > > one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar. &

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread gene heskett
On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use. But I'm that curios cat. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot,

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread John Hasler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread gene heskett
On 2/24/24 11:15, Stefan Monnier wrote: So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work? With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs? Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist" .

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread gene heskett
has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I bought one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar. "purports" appears to be the correct verb https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-bloo

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired > with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work? With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs? Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist"

Re: medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread Loïc Grenié
So a month back I bought > one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar. > "purports" appears to be the correct verb https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-commu

medically smart watches

2024-02-24 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I bought one of the so called smart watches that purports

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-17 Thread gene heskett
On 2/17/24 13:45, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Friday 16 February 2024 04:42:12 pm Gremlin wrote: On 2/16/24 13:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage and have fo

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-17 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 16 February 2024 04:42:12 pm Gremlin wrote: > On 2/16/24 13:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: > >> I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage > >> and have found it to be reliable enough for pe

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-16 Thread Gremlin
On 2/16/24 13:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use. I have one, haven't done much with

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-16 Thread David Christensen
On 2/16/24 10:56, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use. I have one, haven't done much with

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Friday 16 February 2024 04:52:22 am David Christensen wrote: > I think the Raspberry Pi, etc., users on this list live with USB storage > and have found it to be reliable enough for personal and SOHO network use. I have one, haven't done much with it. Are there any alternative ways to inte

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-16 Thread David Christensen
on for that was because the 8-drive array left me with no open SATA ports to be able to connect spare drives in order to do drive replacements without needing to rebuild the whole shaboozle. Having spare drive bays for RAID drive replacement is smart. If you have a processor, memory, PCIe slot, a

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 15 Feb 2024 10:41 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): >> 65,000 hard links seems to be an ext4 limit: >> >> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/max-hard-link-per-file-on-ext4-4175454538/#post4914624 > > That sounds right. > >> I believe ZFS can do more hard l

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-02-15 at 01:18, songbird wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be >> all my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! > > i'm glad you got it back up and running and i hope all your data is > intact. :) Thank you.

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-11 at 15:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> manufacturers in different memory banks, but since it's always >> possible to power down, replace or just remove memory, and power up >> again, > > Hmm... "always"? What about long running computations like that > simulation (or LLM training) la

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-02-15 at 03:09, David Christensen wrote: > On 2/14/24 18:54, The Wanderer wrote: > >> TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be >> all my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! > > That is good to hear. :-) > >> On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wander

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-02-15 at 07:14, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> It turns out that there is a hard limit of 65000 hardlinks per >> on-disk file; > > That's a filesystem dependent value. That's the value for ext4. I think I recall reading that while I was flailing over this,

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread debian-user
The Wanderer wrote: > It turns out that there is a hard limit of 65000 > hardlinks per on-disk file; That's a filesystem dependent value. That's the value for ext4. XFS has a much larger limit I believe. As well as some other helpful properties for large filesystems. btrfs has different limits

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-15 Thread David Christensen
On 2/14/24 18:54, The Wanderer wrote: TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be all my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! That is good to hear. :-) On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote: On

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-14 Thread songbird
The Wanderer wrote: > TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be all > my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! ... i'm glad you got it back up and running and i hope all your data is intact. :) which SSDs did you use? songbird

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-02-14 Thread The Wanderer
TL;DR: It worked! I'm back up and running, with what appears to be all my data safely recovered from the failing storage stack! On 2024-01-09 at 14:22, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote: > >> On 9 Jan 2024 13:25 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The >> Wandere

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > manufacturers in different memory banks, but since it's always > > possible to power down, replace or just remove memory, and power > > up again, > > Hmm... "always"? What about long running computations like that > simulation (or LLM training) launched a month ago and

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 03:25:51PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: manufacturers in different memory banks, but since it's always possible to power down, replace or just remove memory, and power up again, Hmm... "always"? What about long running computations like that simulation (or LLM training)

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> manufacturers in different memory banks, but since it's always > possible to power down, replace or just remove memory, and power > up again, Hmm... "always"? What about long running computations like that simulation (or LLM training) launched a month ago and that's expected to finish in anothe

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
David Christensen wrote: > On 1/11/24 05:50, Dan Ritter wrote: > > David Christensen wrote: > STFW the Dell PowerEdge 6850 (circa 2004) featured "hot plug" disk drives, > expansion slots, memory risers, power supplies, and system cooling fans: > > https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/e

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-11 Thread David Christensen
On 1/11/24 05:50, Dan Ritter wrote: David Christensen wrote: dual network interfaces, and dual power supplies come to mind. I am unclear about dual processors and/or dual memory banks. There are no systems that I'm aware of which allow you to use 2 or more processors of different models; the

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
David Christensen wrote: > On 1/10/24 09:07, Curt wrote: > > On 2024-01-10, David Christensen wrote: > > dual network interfaces, and dual power supplies come to mind. I am unclear > about dual processors and/or dual memory banks. Moving beyond one computer, There are no systems that I'm awar

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread David Christensen
On 1/10/24 09:30, Michael Kjörling wrote: My understanding is that it's even relatively common, at least for flight-critical components, to use totally different implementations (of both hardware and software), not just sourced from different vendors, resellers or batches, such that the same sof

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread David Christensen
l suddenly showing lots of SMART warnings -- I would not have confidence in that RAID. It's curious, but I just heard something on French TV from a journalist that's relevant to this. She said she'd covered the aeronautics field in the past and mentioned the *principe de dissemblance*

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
ame RAID-6, all run 2.5 years 24x7, and all > > suddenly showing lots of SMART warnings -- I would not have confidence > > in that RAID. > > It's curious, but I just heard something on French TV from a journalist > that's relevant to this. She said she'd covered

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 10 Jan 2024 17:07 -, from cu...@free.fr (Curt): > It's curious, but I just heard something on French TV from a journalist > that's relevant to this. She said she'd covered the aeronautics field in > the past and mentioned the *principe de dissemblance* (dissimilarity > principle). Critical r

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2024-01-10, David Christensen wrote: > > > Given the OP's situation -- 8 consumer SSD's, same make and model, > possibly from a defective manufacturing batch, all purchased at the same > time, all deployed in the same RAID-6, all run 2.5 years 24x7, and all > su

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread David Christensen
turing batch, all purchased at the same time, all deployed in the same RAID-6, all run 2.5 years 24x7, and all suddenly showing lots of SMART warnings -- I would not have confidence in that RAID. David

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-10 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jan 2024 14:34 -0800, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): >> I don't know how to interpret the "Pre-fail" notation for the other >> attributes. > > AIUI "Pre-fail" indicates the drive is going to fail soon and should be > replaced. Only if the attribute hits the "failure" thr

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread David Christensen
On 1/9/24 14:34, David Christensen wrote: You can always run smartctl manual ... Correction: manually To get protection against two-device failure, you need 3-day mirrors ... Correction: 3-way Perhaps other readers with madm, ... Correction: mdadm David

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread David Christensen
runs periodically via systemd, Perhaps another reader can post the incantation required to display the settings and/or locate past SMART reports on disk. You can always run smartctl manual to get a SMART report whenever you want (I like the --xall/-x option): # smartctl -x DEV I've looked at

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
ne up to values in the multiple >>>> hundreds per drive. Since then (yesterday), I've also gotten >>>> further notification mails about at least one of the drives >>>> increasing further. So far today I have not gotten any such >>>> notification

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
n further >>> notification mails about at least one of the drives increasing >>> further. So far today I have not gotten any such notifications. > > Do you read the provided excerpt from the SMART data as indicating that > there are hundreds of bad blocks, or that they are

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jan 2024 10:21 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): >>> Model Family: Samsung based SSDs >>> Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB >> >> These may or may not be under warranty, > > I would be surprised if there were warranty coverage at > this point, but might look a bit

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
, healthy, happy life > with one bad sector and never gave any signs of further problems. > > Hundreds of bad blocks per drive is certainly cause for concern. > > More worrying is a _significant increase in the rate of increase_ of > the bad blocks count. That suggests that the dr

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 11:12, Curt wrote: > On 2024-01-09, The Wanderer wrote: > >> My default plan is to identify an appropriate model and buy a pair >> of replacement drives, but not install them yet; buy another two >> drives every six months, until I have a full replacement set; and >> start faili

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
e that you have sufficient redundancy to manage within the storage array. The good part is if you look at SMART attributes 5 and 179; taken in combination, I take them as indication that all (31) reallocated sectors have been reallocated into the spare sectors pool, and this represents approximately 2

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Curt
On 2024-01-09, The Wanderer wrote: > > My default plan is to identify an appropriate model and buy a pair of > replacement drives, but not install them yet; buy another two drives > every six months, until I have a full replacement set; and start failing > drives out of the RAID array and installi

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 09:38, Dan Ritter wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> So... as the Subject asks, should I be worried? How do I interpret >> these results, and at what point do they start to reflect something >> to take action over? If there is not reason to be worried, what >> *do* these alerts in

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Dan Ritter
The Wanderer wrote: > So... as the Subject asks, should I be worried? How do I interpret these > results, and at what point do they start to reflect something to take > action over? If there is not reason to be worried, what *do* these > alerts indicate, and at what point *should* I start to be wo

SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
om all eight drives would seem more likely to reflect a real problem. I've looked at the SMART attributes for the drives, and am having a hard time determining whether or not there's anything worth being actually concerned about here. Some of the information I'm seeing see

Re: HPE Dynamic Smart Array B140i

2023-10-18 Thread basti
Thx William and Dan On 18.10.23 16:52, William Porter wrote: Should be in the "Enabling the Controller" section here: https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=emr_na-c04441385 , pages 6 and 7 I think you're looking for AHCI mode, not HBA/IT mode as this seems to be a SATA devic

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