the older laptop – a DELL Inspiron 1525 – 32bits, about 20
yrs old which previously ran Hardy Heron (ubuntu 8.04) in dual boot
with Windows XP, where I first installed a 32bits version of Bookworm
a little more than a month ago (I think it was april 8th), there was,
at first, no issue with
Hi to Everyone,
Concerning the older laptop – a DELL Inspiron 1525 – 32bits, about 20
yrs old which previously ran Hardy Heron (ubuntu 8.04) in dual boot with
Windows XP, where I first installed a 32bits version of Bookworm a
little more than a month ago (I think it was april 8th), there was
7;t work.
>
There was apt-build, but It's orphaned [1]
apt-build world [2]
is the Debían solution
I tested It many time ago and it worked, but not sure if It will work in
Workborm
Regards
[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365427
[2] https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/apt-build/apt-build.1.en.html
>
On 25/04/2025 18:58, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote:
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 8:48:01 PM Central European Summer Time Darac
Marjal wrote:
Do you need the DVD creation, or are you just looking for the
re-compiled packages? If the latter, perhaps apt-build
(https://manpages.debian.org/testing/apt-bu
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 8:48:01 PM Central European Summer Time Darac
Marjal wrote:
> Do you need the DVD creation, or are you just looking for the
> re-compiled packages? If the latter, perhaps apt-build
> (https://manpages.debian.org/testing/apt-build/apt-build.1.en.html)
> might be of inte
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 11:10:29 PM Central European Summer Time Tim
Woodall wrote:
> Hope the op has a lot of computing resources...
Well, only a single computer, but do you think this would suffice?
Processors: 32 × AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor
Memory: 62.5 GiB of RAM
Thank you
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 2:30:45 PM Central European Summer Time
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> For a more Debian specific link, see
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBootstrap
>
> Cheers
Yes! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you :-)
On 4/24/25 10:21, Eddie wrote:
I am looking at the Staples Dell refurbished desktops for a debian
machine. No windows! I believe a hard drive and around 16gb but am not
sure of processor and do not want nvidia card. Thoughts appreciated.
Dell factory refurbished computers are pricey. Used De
12 Apr 2025, 03:59 by jeremy_ardley_at_gmail_com_lluoq...@simplelogin.co:
>
> On 12/4/25 08:16, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote:
>
>> The short version is that if the behavior with "Connect Automatically" and
>> "Make available to other users" is down to NetworkManager, then I
>> sympa
Eddie composed on 2025-04-24 13:21 (UTC-0400):
> I am looking at the Staples Dell refurbished desktops for a debian
> machine. No windows! I believe a hard drive and around 16gb but am not
> sure of processor and do not want nvidia card. Thoughts appreciated.
I have about 16 Optiplexes of vario
I am looking at the Staples Dell refurbished desktops for a debian
machine. No windows! I believe a hard drive and around 16gb but am not
sure of processor and do not want nvidia card. Thoughts appreciated.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:27 AM Nils wrote:
>
> I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary
> size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find
> infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages...
For the kernel, t
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:55 PM Greg wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After:
>
> # /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop
> # /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop
> # /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop
>
> pool 'backup' is not mounted but:
>
> # zpool export backup
> cannot export 'backup':
On 4/23/25 16:21, David Christensen wrote:
On 4/23/25 14:49, Greg wrote:
Hi there,
What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After:
# /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop
pool 'backup' is not mounted but:
# zpool export backup
cannot export
On 4/23/25 14:49, Greg wrote:
Hi there,
What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After:
# /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop
pool 'backup' is not mounted but:
# zpool export backup
cannot export 'backup': pool is busy
How it is possible
Hi there,
What is the proper way of shutting down ZFS? After:
# /etc/init.d/zfs-share stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-mount stop
# /etc/init.d/zfs-import stop
pool 'backup' is not mounted but:
# zpool export backup
cannot export 'backup': pool is busy
How it is possible that it is not mounted but is s
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:58:52 +
Nils wrote:
Hey!
I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize
for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I
start? I could only find infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using
existing
On 23/04/2025 11:58, Nils wrote:
Hey!
I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary
size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find
infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages...
Thank you!
Do you need the DV
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 01:26:44PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:58:52 +
> Nils wrote:
>
> > Hey!
> >
> > I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize
> > for binary size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I
> > start? I could only find infos on
Hey!
I'd like to compile all of DVD-1 myself but using `-Oz` to optimize for binary
size rather than speed. How do I do that? Where do I start? I could only find
infos on how to build DVD-1 yourself using existing binary packages...
Thank you!
Hello,
> # systemctl status apache2
> # apachectl configtest
> # journalctl -u apache2
I have solved it, and the reason for apache2 not starting with systemd
was that apache2 waited for nslcd to start, while nslcd waited for
time-sync.target and that waited for systemd-time-wait-sync.service.
Unf
On 4/19/25 18:11, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 8:42 AM Christoph Pleger <
christoph.ple...@cs.tu-dortmund.de> wrote:
after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to
start apache2 by systemd. Even configuring the apache2 package hangs
forever, if I
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 8:42 AM Christoph Pleger <
christoph.ple...@cs.tu-dortmund.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to
> start apache2 by systemd. Even configuring the apache2 package hangs
> forever, if I do not kill the related processes
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 5:09 AM Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 10:03:58 +0200
> Christoph Pleger wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to
> > start apache2 by systemd. Even configuring the apache2 package hangs
> > forever, if I do not
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 10:03:58AM +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote:
> after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to
> start apache2 by systemd.
Always check:
# systemctl status apache2
# apachectl configtest
# journalctl -u apache2
and the contents of apache2's own er
Hello,
after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to
start apache2 by systemd. Even configuring the apache2 package hangs
forever, if I do not kill the related processes and edit
/var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.postinst, commenting out all lines where
apache2 is tried to be sta
On 12/04/2025 07:16, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote:
I performed some very basic testing using a Debian 12.8.0 Live CD.
Likely nobody will be interested in minor bugs for versions released a
couple of years ago. At current moment it is better to try trixie weekly
builds. Upstream developers o
On 12/4/25 11:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
I had both running without conflicts on my old laptop with
Ubuntu-20.04 LTS focal. I hope, Debian does not differ in this case.
Just set what devices each daemon should ignore.
Ethernet and WiFi were under control of NetworkManager (to have tray
indicato
On 12/04/2025 09:58, jeremy ardley wrote:
The thing to remember is you can't have NetworkManager and systemd-
networkd running at the same time.
I had both running without conflicts on my old laptop with Ubuntu-20.04
LTS focal. I hope, Debian does not differ in this case. Just set what
device
On 12/4/25 08:16, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote:
The short version is that if the behavior with "Connect Automatically" and "Make
available to other users" is down to NetworkManager, then I sympathize with the suggestions
to migrate from it to systemd-networkd. If someone could po
Thank you for the continued responses. I performed some very basic testing
using a Debian 12.8.0 Live CD. The results were confusing and highlighted some
issues with the creation of network profiles in general, at least from my point
of view.
The short version is that if the behavior with "Con
On Mon 07 Apr 2025 at 21:34:42 (+0200), coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me
wrote:
>
> > I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in,
> > but the connection has not activated manually.
> >
> Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to
>
On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 09:34:42PM +0200, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me
wrote:
Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available
to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be
respected, in case there is a bug, or close this issue as solved? I'
On 08/04/2025 02:34, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote:
I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in,
but the connection has not activated manually.
Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available
to others users" enabled for the "Connect Automat
On 8/4/25 11:18, Titus Newswanger wrote:
FWIW, I generally don't get along with NetworkManager on server
installations and end up uninstalling it and running either
systemd-networkd or netplan. I just got done with a server install
where the network was not coming up until after I logged into
On 4/7/25 14:34, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote:
Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to others users"
enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be respected, in case there is a bug,
or close this issue as solved? I'm happy either way.
FW
> I am curious what nmcli subcommand reports when the cable is plugged in, but
> the connection has not activated manually.
>
Should I pursue the strange behavior of needing to have "Make available to
others users" enabled for the "Connect Automatically" setting to be respected,
in case there
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:17 PM wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2025 at 11:56 PM Lee wrote:
>
> > Can you try it with Make available to other users ON
>
> Toggling "Make available to other users" to ON solves the problem! First I
> tested this with the built-in Ethernet adapter. After this was successf
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:53 PM Timothy M Butterworth <
timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:25 PM Charles Curley <
> charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote:
>
>> On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I h
n people treat hosts file users, like 3rd class
users? Its easier to setup, needs less maintenance, and Just Works
since my first linux install in '98... Sure, we can lock NM from
tearing a working net down by making resolv.conf immutable and a real
file. We no longer have to do that with bookwo
On 3/31/25 15:24, gene heskett wrote:
I blame it on the busted bookworm installer. Anything plugged into usb
triggers it to put orca and brltty in whether you want it or not. I
don't own a wired mouse. I did close to 40 installs trying to find a
way around that but probably 30
On 05/04/2025 07:33, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote:
I think there is still the question of why this setting must be ON for
this to work properly. I followed the steps suggested by Max Nikulin and
I think there is something interesting in the output of 'journalctl -f'.
I do not think, GNOME ap
On Thu, Apr 4, 2025 at 11:56 PM wrote:
> Can you try it with Make available to other users ON
Toggling "Make available to other users" to ON solves the problem! First I
tested this with the built-in Ethernet adapter. After this was successful I
configured this to ON for the other adapters and
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:32 PM wrote:
>
> Background Information
> ===
>
> Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is
> functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB
> Ethernet adapters an
ttle black and vice versa with zero progress as bookworm is stuck on 9.1
while the rest of the planet has moved on to at least 9.4 which works.
Tbird, beta, still has broken quoting.
The dns problem is separate I guess, but does bring up my other pet
peeve. That is that no one at debian conside
Mike Castle writes:
> The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give
> some resemblance to reality.
I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
256.5-2. The command `w` still works fine.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1080330
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:19:08PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
Off Topic I just did a 1 year diploma in advanced networking. I
couldn't even comprehend why the still had crossover cables in the
lab. Perhaps to accommodate pre-2000 CISCO switches?
cisco was one of the companies that was late to
On 04/04/2025 05:56, coffeeforblood.pardon117 wrote:
Here is the output of 'ip addr' for USB Ethernet Adapter #1 under
different circumstances:
You have not written it explicitly, but almost certainly you use
NetworkManager. That is why its configuration should be inspected
nmcli
n
On 4/4/25 17:06, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
I would not be surprised to learn that some inexpensive ethernet
controllers lacked some features, like Auto MDI-X, since it is an
optional feature of the 1000BASE-T standard.
For 1000BASE-T I would be very surprised if that was the case as it uses
all
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:52 AM jeremy ardley wrote:
>
> On 4/4/25 09:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > It sounds like the client is connected directly to the server via
> > ethernet, presumably without a cross-over ethernet cable. So both
> > ethernet ports would need to auto-sense the configuration.
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:38:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
... when a cable from the server is connected to the Ethernet port
of a client device, the Debian server will automatically recognize
the new physical connection and then automatically activate that
connection.
It sounds
On 4/4/25 09:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
It sounds like the client is connected directly to the server via
ethernet, presumably without a cross-over ethernet cable. So both
ethernet ports would need to auto-sense the configuration.
Can you run the same experiment with a hub or switch in between?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:32 PM wrote:
>
> Background Information
> ===
>
> Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is
> functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB
> Ethernet adapters an
Background Information
===
Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is
functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB
Ethernet adapters and a built-in Ethernet adapter. Ethernet cables are
permanently inserted into
On 4/4/25 06:56, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote:
I noted that systemd-networkd service is not running by default. For testing
purposes I enabled and started this service, but there was no improvement.
systemd-networkd is a competitor to NetworkManager. You need to run one
or the
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:56:05 +0200 (CEST)
coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote:
> Is it normal for 'systemd-networkd' not to be running by default on a
> fresh installation of Debian 12, as a general rule? I disabled it
> again after troubleshooting this problem.
Yes, it is.
Installation does
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:30:43 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > To be pedantic, any logins subsequent to touching it will show up.
> > It is necessary to touch it after a reboot. So a nice workaround.
>
> It should be possible to create this file as part of the boot
> sequence, before user logins a
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:14:46 -0400
Michael Stone wrote:
> >To be pedantic, any logins subsequent to touching it will show up. It
> >is necessary to touch it after a reboot. So a nice workaround.
>
> Yeah. I'm working on it; I'd like for both mechanisms to work for
> trixie because IMO the trans
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:19:48 -0400
Michael Stone wrote:
> If you touch /run/utmp it will magically start working again.
Thank you.
To be pedantic, any logins subsequent to touching it will show up. It
is necessary to touch it after a reboot. So a nice workaround.
--
Does anybody read signature
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 15:03:34 -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:19:48 -0400
> Michael Stone wrote:
>
> > If you touch /run/utmp it will magically start working again.
>
> Thank you.
>
> To be pedantic, any logins subsequent to touching it will show up. It
> is necessary to
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 03:03:34PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:19:48 -0400>Michael Stone wrote:
If you touch /run/utmp it will magically start working again.
Thank you.
To be pedantic, any logins subsequent to touching it will show up. It
is necessary to touch it afte
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 09:09:24AM +0300, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
Mike Castle writes:
I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
256.5-2.
If you touch /run/utmp it will magically start working again.
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:09:24 +0300
Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
> Mike Castle writes:
>
> > The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give
> > some resemblance to reality.
>
> I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
> 256.5-2.
I don't see it on eit
use it here without any problems, and it has to work
> > > because there's no DNS server in my router (too cheap).
> > >
> > >$ grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf
> > >hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
> > because files doesn&
no DNS server in my router (too cheap).
> >
> >$ grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf
> >hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
> because files doesn't work in bookworm, I had to:
>
> grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf
> hosts: files mdns4
it now, but I'm disappointed at how this has been treated. Pot
> > > called the kettle black and vice versa with zero progress as bookworm is
> > > stuck on 9.1 while the rest of the planet has moved on to at least 9.4
> > > which works.
The subject of th
grub at it. Based on 4.19, latency is 1/4th
the realtime debian has in its current 6.10 something RT. 12 microeconds
vs 50+.
The lathe doesn't seem to care.
You must have a very strange setup indeed.
I blame it on the busted bookworm installer. Anything plugged into usb
triggers it
le treat hosts file users, like 3rd class
> users? Its easier to setup, needs less maintenance, and Just Works
> since my first linux install in '98... Sure, we can lock NM from
> tearing a working net down by making resolv.conf immutable and a real
> file. We no longer have to
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> The dns problem is separate I guess, but does bring up my other pet peeve.
> That is that no one at debian considers the effect on dns to those of us who
> have been using hosts files for local dns since back in the late 90's
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 19:38:16 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > What makes the debian people treat hosts file users, like 3rd class users?
>
> I'm a (heavy!) hosts file user. I'm being treated by Debian 1st class.
> Perhaps it's
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 3/31/25 02:09, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
> > I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
> > 256.5-2. The command `w` still works fine.
> no, its dns lookup fails there also.
This conversation is about the
On 3/31/25 03:36, gene heskett wrote:
On 3/31/25 02:09, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
Mike Castle writes:
The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give
some resemblance to reality.
I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
256.5-2. The command `w` sti
On 3/31/25 02:09, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
Mike Castle writes:
The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give
some resemblance to reality.
I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to
256.5-2. The command `w` still works fine.
no, its dns lookup fails
On 3/30/25 18:25, Charles Curley wrote:
On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I have
expected it to operate for several decades: it prints current logins.
E.g.:
charles@hawk:~$ who
charles tty7 2025-03-30 11:31 (:0)
charles pts/35 2025-03-27 20:13
The whole utmp stuff is flaky, a best effort system that might give
some resemblance to reality.
All who does is read the database. It is up to all of the other
systems that might write to it to do the correct thing with regards to
adding and removing entries.
man -s 5 utmp
Goes into more detai
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:53:39 -0400
Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > On trixie who (GNU coreutils 9.5) gives me a long list of logins,
> > most of which predate the most recent reboot. "who -u", similarly.
> >
>
> On my Trixie system `who --users` only provides a carriage return and
> prints no
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:25 PM Charles Curley <
charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote:
> On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I have
> expected it to operate for several decades: it prints current logins.
> E.g.:
>
> charles@hawk:~$ who
> charles
On bookworm who (GNU coreutils 9.1) operates more or less as I have
expected it to operate for several decades: it prints current logins.
E.g.:
charles@hawk:~$ who
charles tty7 2025-03-30 11:31 (:0)
charles pts/35 2025-03-27 20:13 (192.168.100.47)
root pts/36 2025-03-27
Reported at
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1100655
for anyone interested.
> On 16 Mar 2025, at 16:06, Joe wrote:
>
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:38:45 +
> "Gareth Evans" wrote
>>
>> So working again, but a messy/broken upgrade process for me.
>>
>> Is this worth reporting?
>
> Yes, I would think so, most
xx
>
> $ sudo systemctl restart mariadb
>
> $ sudo systemctl status mariadb
>
> ● mariadb.service - MariaDB 10.11.11 database server
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service; enabled;
> preset: enab> Active: active (running) since Sun 2025-03-16
On Sun 16/03/2025 at 11:01, Joe wrote:
> What's the background here? Did you have a working mariadb installation
> before, and is it still working?
Hi Joe,
It was working before and after the failed upgrade, as neither it nor anything
else had been upgraded.
I copied mariadb.cnf from the ext
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 08:56:47 +
"Gareth Evans" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> $ cat /etc/debian_version
> 12.10
>
> An automated apt update/upgrade failed last night. On trying again,
> I get:
>
> $ sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade
>
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> 48 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0
Hello,
$ cat /etc/debian_version
12.10
An automated apt update/upgrade failed last night. On trying again, I get:
$ sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade
Preconfiguring packages ...
48 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/13
borted the installation.
I had a bunch of problems getting the installer to make or keep a GPT
partition table for my last install (12 / Bookworm) too. I think I
solved it by making the GPT partition table with fdisk, then doing
manual partitioning. Still got it subtly wrong because the computer
doesn&#x
ad a bunch of problems getting the installer to make or keep a GPT
partition table for my last install (12 / Bookworm) too. I think I
solved it by making the GPT partition table with fdisk, then doing
manual partitioning. Still got it subtly wrong because the computer
doesn't boot using UEF
I have recently put a new computer into service. It is a Dell Vostro
3910 running Windows 11. In addition to the C:\ drive , I have a 2TB SSD
for Linux which the OS found as the D:\ drive.
The installation went as I have come to expect, until it got to
formatting the drive. I was presented wit
Hi all,
I noticed on bookworm, that xsane is not being loaded as a plugin, even
though is being recognised in the initial first run splash screen.
Even if I create a symbolic link to xsane in the users .config/GIMP/plug-ins
folder, still does not load.
From terminal I notice a clash between
On 29/01/2025 19:16, Greg Wooledge wrote:
dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service symlink is a service name alias
for systemd-timesyncd.service. I have no idea *why* this alias was
desired, but that's apparently what it is.
systemd.unit(5) explains that it is to start the service on demand in
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 02:18:23 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Some old programs use non-existent symlinks to store or persist state
> information rather than create a normal file. But I don't believe
> systemd uses the technique.
Not on purpose, but systemd does use symbolic links to store state
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 5:02 PM Patrice Duroux wrote:
>
> Of course, maybe I misspoke but my point wasn't about the configuration files
> remaining as expected just removing the package and not purging it. It is
> about
> the broken symlink to its service file which is for sure no more present
>
On 29/01/2025 01:39, Greg Wooledge wrote:
The question is about this dangling symlink:
hobbit:/etc/systemd/system$ ls -l dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 Feb 17 2024 dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
-> /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service
[...]
Le 28/01/2025 à 23:28, David Wright a écrit :
[...]
But would that not be /etc/systemd/system/…/systemd-timesyncd.service?
The dangling symlink is for ….timesync1.service, whatever that is.
Analogously, my systemd-networkd service has two symlinks:
/e/s/s/dbus-org.freedesktop.network1.service
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:30 PM didier gaumet wrote:
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> Le 28/01/2025 à 20:42, didier gaumet a écrit :
> [...]
> > the installation of the package (seemly the default policy in Debian),
> [...]
>
> sorry for my poor english: please replace "seemly" by "apparently"
Don't apologize. Your English i
On Tue 28 Jan 2025 at 20:42:49 (+0100), didier gaumet wrote:
> Le 28/01/2025 à 19:39, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
> [...]
> > hobbit:/etc/systemd/system$ ls -l dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 Feb 17 2024
> > dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service ->
> > /lib/syst
Le 28/01/2025 à 20:42, didier gaumet a écrit :
[...]
the installation of the package (seemly the default policy in Debian),
[...]
sorry for my poor english: please replace "seemly" by "apparently"
Le 28/01/2025 à 19:39, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
[...]
hobbit:/etc/systemd/system$ ls -l dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 Feb 17 2024 dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service
-> /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service
[...]
I'm unclear on exactly how this sym
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 19:07:51 +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote:
> Of course, maybe I misspoke but my point wasn't about the configuration files
> remaining as expected just removing the package and not purging it. It is
> about
> the broken symlink to its service file which is for sure no more prese
Of course, maybe I misspoke but my point wasn't about the configuration files
remaining as expected just removing the package and not purging it. It is about
the broken symlink to its service file which is for sure no more present
whatever a removal or a purge. Or is such a symlink considered as
Le 27/01/2025 à 17:39, Patrice Duroux a écrit :
Hi,
I do not know if this is something already addressed (elsewhere or in
Trixie), a package issue or something more general.
On a bookworm system, removing systemd-timesyncd is leaving a broken
symlink (/etc/systemd/system/dbus
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