On 3/31/25 13:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
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The dns problem is separate I guess, but does bring up my other pet peeve.
That is that no one at debian considers the effect on dns to those of us who
have been using hosts files for local dns since back in the late 90's I
have no dhcpd setup and rig my lashup so that my local lookups are first
and in the hosts file, if not it the hosts, my isp's dns gets queried. But
every new install changes things around resolv.conf making that harder and
harder to do.
Gene. I really don't know what you are doing. I do use my hosts file
all the time (last time was Thursday last week). I use it when testing
out some web site, whose test version is running in the local net (say
192.168.42.13) but which thinks it's "www.foo.com". I just put that entry
in the /etc/hosts, and things Just Work. I *need* that for my devel
work.
my whole local 192.168.yy.zz local net runs that way, which is how it
should but its been a trip making it work since wheezy went away. Most
of my linuxcnc machines are still on wheezy. But I'm hidden behind a
later model router running the latest dd-wrt. Every machine (currently
9) can browse the planet with FF the way I'm setup. Do their own updates
etc.
The only offender I have to be aware of is the browser, which sometimes
would like to do DoH (which we have explained already in another thread,
so I won't repeat).
What makes the debian people treat hosts file users, like 3rd class users?
I'm a (heavy!) hosts file user. I'm being treated by Debian 1st class.
Perhaps it's Raspbian? I don't know.
The rpi4 running my Sheldon lathe claims its debian 12. The printers I
have built are all armbian. So nothing from the foundation is running
anyplace here. There is nothing about Raspian in the same county as
realtime although I did develop a way to put a realtime kernel in
raspian several years back. Amazingly the tarball is just over 28 megs,
all I have to do is point grub at it. Based on 4.19, latency is 1/4th
the realtime debian has in its current 6.10 something RT. 12 microeconds
vs 50+.
The lathe doesn't seem to care.
You must have a very strange setup indeed.
I blame it on the busted bookworm installer. Anything plugged into usb
triggers it to put orca and brltty in whether you want it or not. I
don't own a wired mouse. I did close to 40 installs trying to find a way
around that but probably 30 of he reinstalls were because it would not
reboot once I'd shut orca up. Couldn't remove it because of dependencies
until an update finally fixed the dependencies but now I'm stuck with a
30 second to a full minute system freeze while trying to create or open
a file in my /home/me path. That's very distracting, fouls up ones train
of thought waiting and waiting for the file requestor to open. Once it
does open, freezeup is finished, but it sure wastes a lot of time. Mouse
pointer moves but buttons and keyboard are dead.
Cheers
Thanks Tomas. Take care of #1.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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