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2011-11-21 Thread Elvis Stansvik
2011/11/22 Thorsten Zachmann : > Hello all, > > from what I have read about the rename of Calligra Tables into something else > I must have to say that up to now I have not seen anthing I would say lets > change it to this very very good new name. There has been not one very very > good result that

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2011-11-21 Thread Vít Pelčák
2011/11/21 Boudewijn Rempt : > On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Markus Slopianka wrote: >> The list of names is so terrible, I now understand why you fought so hard to >> keep it >> secret, handpicked eligible voters, and suppressed any attempt to make >> suggestions after >> your pseudo-democrati

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2011-11-21 Thread Adam Pigg
To be clear, what it does is write an ods file,out does not open tables and populate it and does not open tables at the end. So maybe export to spreadsheet is more appropriate.the original thinking was to advertise our brand names in the GUI, in the same way msa has analyse with word and analyse wi

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2011-11-21 Thread Thorsten Zachmann
Hello all, from what I have read about the rename of Calligra Tables into something else I must have to say that up to now I have not seen anthing I would say lets change it to this very very good new name. There has been not one very very good result that would justify the rename in my point o

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2011-11-21 Thread Elvis Stansvik
Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer: > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: It was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of that poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. >>> >>> Is that a proposal to redo

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
Some more naming branstorm; === Background === I think at the beginning there is a question. In the case of OpenOffice.org it was probably something like "What you do with it"? * You write something together => Writer * You calculate something together => Calc * You try to impress people => Im

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 02:50 PM, C. Boemann wrote: To be more productive on this one; As far as I remember the idea was to establish one common brand: Calligra. That means the application-names themself should not be used "stand-alone" like they where before. So, it's Calligra Words and not KWord, it's Ca

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 03:20 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: Please read what I've done for you: free research :) What you write is a game - not in conflict more than the Words app from 2008 is with Calligra Words. Ah, indeed. Thanks :-) What I wrote is Abacus THE spreadsheet that is dead. I have no prob

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: I would like to start with defining the problem. That was greatly done through I personally do not agree with the result that a renaming is needed. I mean for the same reason we would need to rename Words cause ppl may confuse it with a "Count word

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2011-11-21 Thread Elvis Stansvik
Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer: > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: It was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of that poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. >>> >>> Is that a proposal to redo

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2011-11-21 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Adam Pigg wrote: > How about > Calligra Abaci > Calligra Worksheet (or workbook) > > Im not keen on Calligra Spread, sounds a bit like some bizare sexual > position :) Ah, a devotee of Oscar Wilde. To me, it sounds like something chemical to put on bread... -- B

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2011-11-21 Thread Adam Pigg
How about Calligra Abaci Calligra Worksheet (or workbook) Im not keen on Calligra Spread, sounds a bit like some bizare sexual position :) On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Elvis Stansvik wrote: > Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer: > > > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann

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2011-11-21 Thread Elvis Stansvik
Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer: > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: It was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of that poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. >>> >>> Is that a proposal to redo

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2011-11-21 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Markus Slopianka wrote: > The list of names is so terrible, I now understand why you fought so hard to > keep it > secret, handpicked eligible voters, and suppressed any attempt to make > suggestions after > your pseudo-democratic vote started... I don't think t

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2011-11-21 Thread Markus Slopianka
The list of names is so terrible, I now understand why you fought so hard to keep it secret, handpicked eligible voters, and suppressed any attempt to make suggestions after your pseudo-democratic vote started... On Sonntag 20 November 2011 21:42:59 C. Boemann wrote: > Hi > > Here are the re

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 15:38:11 you wrote: > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: > But that means we exclude him from the decision that could have taken > place at our mailinglist (where him and me btw could have participated > at) and not at the sprint (where neither him nor me where abl

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: It was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of that poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. Is that a proposal to redo the "poll / voting"? Cause else it would not make any sense... or do you suggest to n

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2011-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 21 November 2011 15:17, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 02:39 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> >> On 21 November 2011 13:50, Pierre Stirnweiss >>  wrote: > > 1. Abacus  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) Even if it won the competition it is a bad cho

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2011-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 21 November 2011 14:58, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 02:03 PM, C. Boemann wrote: >> >> On Monday 21 November 2011 13:50:38 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > > 1. Abacus  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) Even if it won the competition it is a bad choi

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 02:39 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 13:50, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already a spreadsheet application out there with this name. See

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
Pretty hard to ask a maintainer that hasn't responded since 1999. I have little doubt that the commits are done by paid distribution employees. Just like Montel and others sweeps by calligra from time to time. On Monday 21 November 2011 15:09:18 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > Well, if he has updated

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2011-11-21 Thread Pierre Stirnweiss
Well, if he has updated it to make it compile, it is still in a maintained state. It shows the developer(s) is(are) still interrested at providing their software. The very least we have to (and a strong emphasise on the "have to") is to speak with him(them) before even pushing much further the poss

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 14:58:18 you wrote: > On 11/21/2011 02:03 PM, C. Boemann wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 13:50:38 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) > >>> > >>> Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as th

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 02:03 PM, C. Boemann wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 13:50:38 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already a spreadsheet application out there with this name. Se

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 14:47:54 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 11:55 AM, C. Boemann wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 08:27:10 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: > It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And >

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 11:55 AM, C. Boemann wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 08:27:10 Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And yes some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed names were b

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 14:11:00 you wrote: > On 11/21/2011 01:37 PM, C. Boemann wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 13:18:50 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 11:29 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > >>> On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, J

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2011-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 21 November 2011 13:50, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > >> > 1. Abacus  (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) >> >> Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already a >> spreadsheet application out there with this name. See >> http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/de

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 01:37 PM, C. Boemann wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 13:18:50 Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:29 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 13:50:38 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > > > 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) > > > > Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already a > > spreadsheet application out there with this name. See > > http://www.freebsdsof

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2011-11-21 Thread Pierre Stirnweiss
> > 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) > > Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already a > spreadsheet application out there with this name. See > http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/deskutils/abacus.html > > If there is already a spreadsheet ap

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 11:55 AM, C. Boemann wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 08:27:10 Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And yes some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed names were b

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 11:40 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 10:53, Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauerwrote: On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: It also reveals the names (for those that we

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 13:18:50 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 11:29 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > >>> On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 11:29 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: It also reveals the names (for those that

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2011-11-21 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 21 November 2011 08:27:10 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: > >> It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And > >> yes some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed names > >> were brought to the vote. > >> > >

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2011-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 21 November 2011 10:53, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> >> On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer  wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: > > It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And >>

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2011-11-21 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: > It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And yes > >>

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2011-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sauer
On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer wrote: On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And yes some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed names were bro

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2011-11-21 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: >> >>> It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). And yes >>> some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed names were >>> brought to the vote. >>> >>> >>> 1. Ab