How about Calligra Abaci Calligra Worksheet (or workbook) Im not keen on Calligra Spread, sounds a bit like some bizare sexual position :)
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Elvis Stansvik <elvst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer<m...@dipe.org>: > > > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote: > >>>> > >>>> It > >>>> was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of > that > >>>> poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. > >>> > >>> Is that a proposal to redo the "poll / voting"? Cause else it would not > >>> make any sense... or do you suggest to now take only Abacus (and > Tables) > >>> from the list + add my (and other) suggestions and then do the actual > >>> voting on them? > >> > >> No need to redo. To poll was to give input into the further process. So > I > >> propose to take only Abacus, Spreads, Tables + add yours (and other) > >> suggestions and then that may end in a decision (by vote or otherwise). > > > > Okeli. Thanks for clarification. > > > >>> Also I would like clarification about; > >>> 1. Do we only take 1 (the proposal with the most votes) from the list > or > >>> the first 2 or 3 or... ? > >> > >> We take the poll and look at what people thought. Nothing more nothing > less. > >> > >>> 2. What if Mek things "but I think KSpreadsheet would be a nice name > too > >>> but I would like to know if others from the community see it the same"? > >>> Do we redo everything then? > >> > >> No we don't redo anything but anyone can make a poll about another set > of > >> names (including or not names from the first poll). It's input and > provides > >> much clearer result than many mails. Still it is Marijn's decision or > if he > >> defers it to a decision making vote. > > > > But that means we exclude him from the decision that could have taken > place at our mailinglist (where him and me btw could have participated at) > and not at the sprint (where neither him nor me where able to participate). > > > > I think doing such a finding with him together would not only increase > the possibility for adoption but maybe would also provide valuable input to > all of us. I mean maybe he was lately thinking that the Tables-name is not > good too and maybe even has already an idea for an alternate name? Cannot > harm to share here as soon as possible. > > > >>> 3. As basic requirement for such a voting I would like to know who is > >>> allowed to vote. I prefer here an inclusive and not exclusive process > >>> here. In any case it would be nice to know; > >> > >> I don't recall us ever having exclusive voting, so why would it be > different in > >> the future. > > > > Okeli. Well, sometimes it happens but accident. How that list of names > was assembled is probably a good example. It just happens to exclude those > who where not there. Surely the same can happen with a mailinglist (e.g. > being in holidays) but then it's more the own fault to not check every few > days mails rather then not doing a trip around the globe. > > > >>> a) what are the requirements to be allowed to vote? > >>> b) I like to know who was allowed to vote so I am sure nobody was > >>> excluded (I guess by defining point a we would already cleared that > point) > >> > >> You mean the poll? All who asked were obviously sent a link to vote, > but i'm > >> not going to disclose emails and how people voted. If anyone think I > excluded > >> them they had a week to raise their voice on the ML. > > > > I see and I trust you on that. Still I would like to make it easy for > anybody to give there opinion/input/ideas. That still can mean they are not > allowed to have an actual vote but input/ideas are great to have especially > on something like finding a name. Maybe some genius, who did not contribute > before, shares an amazing idea for a name? Nothing is impossible (remember > how we found the Calligra-name). > > Sitting on the bus reading this and got a (perhaps whacky) idea; how about > Calligra Crunch ? :) > > Cheers, > Elvis > > > > > > That's why a discussion on a mailinglist is so great. Sometimes > bikesheding (aka as much input/ideas as possible) is what you like to have. > See e.g. the latest KDE wallpaper-contest :-) > > > >>> 4. How is the counting done? > >> > >> Condorset rules. Don't know the exact math and don't really care. We > have used > >> that site before and it appears to be accepted by a wider audience as > fair > > > > Ah, ok. I wasn't aware that the software does the counting. Thanks. > > > >>> 5. What do others think about the proposed names? > >> > >> Not that people aren't allowed to say so now, but the point of a vote > is to > >> collect such opinions in a balanced and no noise way. > > > > And that is where I don't agree. I already do not think a voting would > be needed at all but in any case I think the voting comes at the very end > of a longer process. I mean you should be able to form an opinion. That > means input, input and more input. As more sources as better else we could > all just do what FOX-news says and be fine. > > > >>>> In the end it's > >>>> up to Marijn. He could then perhaps set up a formal election or not. > But > >>>> we don't have unlimited time until the first Calligra release, > >>> > >>> Now jaroslaw wrote there are discussions going on since more then a > >>> year... and now shortly before the release it's pushed cause nobody was > >>> motivated to make it a public topic for suggestion before? Now I am > very > >>> sure that something smells with the whole decision and voting process. > >> > >> It has come up on irc many times. And it makes sense to bring it up > formally > >> before it's too late. > > > > I see. So, it's a timing-problem why the process looks so wrong. That is > very good news cause it means it's not a common issue in our decision > making/finding but an issue in our time-management :-) > > > > Did anyone ping Mek on IRC about that? Is he aware? Do we have alternate > suggestions to the rename to solve the IRC-communication / bugzilla > problems? > > > >>>> and cutting away > >>>> early ideas that never has a chance will make the rest of the > discussions > >>>> more qualitative. > >>> > >>> And add Grids, Blocks, Boxes, Flat and "Numbers n shit" to the list of > >>> 10 possible choices? > >> > >> huh? > >> > > > > Well, I think neither of them really matches to the "name says what the > application is about" idea. They are just more worse then whatever we had > before including KSpread. Grids=painting? Blocks=building? Boxes=design? > Flat=huh? "Numbers n shit"=okeli, a joke. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > calligra-devel mailing list > > calligra-devel@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > calligra-devel mailing list > calligra-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel > >
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