On Monday 21 November 2011 13:18:50 Sebastian Sauer wrote: > On 11/21/2011 11:29 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Monday 21 November 2011 Nov, Sebastian Sauer wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 09:11 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > >>> On 21 November 2011 08:27, Sebastian Sauer<m...@dipe.org> wrote: > >>>> On 11/21/2011 04:36 AM, Thorsten Zachmann wrote: > >>>>>> It also reveals the names (for those that weren't at the sprint). > >>>>>> And yes some were made as a joke, but in all fairness all proposed > >>>>>> names were brought to the vote. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. Abacus (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices) > >>>>> > >>>>> Even if it won the competition it is a bad choice as there is already > >>>>> a spreadsheet application out there with this name. See > >>>>> http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/deskutils/abacus.html > >>>> > >>>> I agree. The sucks. Also the list of names is so bad that I don't > >>>> wonder it wins. Even more worse now we destroyed the nice idea the > >>>> brand and the app names had :-( > >>> > >>> Sorry guys, that was discussed already > >> > >> Sorry, where was this discussed before? At the sprint where none of > >> those hacking on Tables participated [*]? In the mail that already > >> included the list of possible options set in stone [**]? > >> > >> [*] Wasn't there once the rule that during sprints no decisions should > >> be made cause it excludes to many non-participants? > > > > I'm not sure about that, but yes... It's not like anyone at the sprint > > could decide about a new name for Tables. I understand this vote to be > > nothing more than a vote on a selection of ideas that is then proposed > > to the Tables team. > > Thanks for making the point I try to bring on the table more clear. The > thing is that the selection of names was exactly not what we voted > about. I am not even sure who made that list. In any case I remember > back how we found the Calligra name and found that a very great process. > I mean especially at something like that we could take more time and > have a longer talk. In fact I count at least 3 people who replied to the > initial mail that they do not agree with the process. So, I think we can > optimize that. I mean not only for the case discussed here but just > generally. I think we should > 1. start with an initial discussion here on the mailinglist where > nothing but nothing is pre-defined. Just state what is the goal, why and > maybe add an initial list of what people think is good. And then start > from there to see if we can find a common agreement on the list of > names. Personally I think as more input we get as better. So, I would > even not limit that to "only contributors" but just any name-proposal is > a good one. > 2. I think all that is related to this should happen at the mailinglist. > I would even go as far to say the voting itself. But then I can > understand that some would like to have a secret voting process. That's > okay. But maybe some would not and they could already "vote" or at least > bring there opinion on the table. We can then see who agrees and who > doesn't. That doesn't any harm except maybe taking longer but then ihmo > something like choosing a name for an application shouldn't be a > 5-minute process. > > > It's up to Marijn, you and other Tables hackers to actually decide > > whether to do anything with the result of the vote. > > As I wrote in my first reply I would really prefer to not do here a > yes/no voting but get more input/feedback especially from Mek. I would > even have preferred to get that one before we even start to vote. > > _______________________________________________ > calligra-devel mailing list > calligra-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel But who says all of that still cant happen. And you keep calling it a vote. It was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of that poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion. In the end it's up to Marijn. He could then perhaps set up a formal election or not. But we don't have unlimited time until the first Calligra release, and cutting away early ideas that never has a chance will make the rest of the discussions more qualitative.
I must say I like the Latin derivations of Tables someone proposed too (because it makes the name distinctive without changing too much). I respect the poll saying most people like Abacus (I had that on top myself too). But I also think Spreads is still eligible for further discussions, even though it only got in second. So to conclude: Nothing has been decided. I can only assume you have misunderstood that. _______________________________________________ calligra-devel mailing list calligra-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel
