That's the answer I was looking for. <g>

<<JAV>>

On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 13:59, Paul Greene wrote:
> If a clearance is required before you start, you're out of luck. To 
> apply for a clearance in the first place, if you didn't already have a 
> clearance from being in the military or something, your employer has to 
> fill out a form stating the need for you to have a clearance, and give a 
> specific contract that you're being hired for that requires the 
> clearance. You can't just go and apply for a security clearance as 
> average Joe Blow US Citizen on your own. If you're lucky you'll find 
> someone that needs you badly enough that they can hire you and have you 
> do other work while they wait for the excrutiatingly slow investigation 
> process to finish (18-30 months), but don't count on it.
> 
> I suggested government contractors who's clients are *civilian* agencies 
> because most of these don't need a clearance (i.e. IRS, Social Security 
> Administration, Department of <Treasury, Health and Human Services, 
> Education, etc> agencies), and they easily employ as many, if not more, 
> people as the DoD or NSA type agencies. (at least in the Wash. DC area)
> 
> paul
> 
> Joe Polk wrote:
> 
> >I see a lot of jobs, even here in GA, that require "clearance" and
> >wondered how it might be obtained.
> >
> ><<JAV>>
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 10:19, Paul Greene wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Immediates clearances are only needed if you work for DoD or an 
> >>intelligence agency. If you get hired by someone who's clients are 
> >>mainly civilian agencies, you don't need a clearance. Actually the first 
> >>time I got hired in this area was for a DoD client, and I didn't have a 
> >>clearance either. I just had to work in the office, and couldn't go to 
> >>the customer's site.
> >>
> >>paul
> >>
> >>Joe Polk wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Most such jobs require clearance. How would one obtain clearance ahead
> >>>of applying for a job with the gub'munt?
> >>>
> >>><<JAV>>
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 09:09, Paul Greene wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>The Washington DC/ Northern Virginia area, while not exactly booming 
> >>>>with IT jobs, is probably in better shape than most of the rest of the 
> >>>>country.
> >>>>
> >>>>The main reason is the Federal government. Working for government 
> >>>>contractors doesn't pay as much as what you'd be used to in the 
> >>>>commercial world, but the work is much more consistent and steady. 
> >>>>Government work isn't nearly as affected by the economy as the 
> >>>>commercial world.
> >>>>
> >>>>paul
> >>>>
> >>>>Gene Yoo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>David Busby wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>man resume
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>this is so wrong :) yes i have a smile on my face also...  i think in 
> >>>>>general, all job market is pretty bad right now.  i don't care how 
> >>>>>many certs you may have, the bottom line is the job market is 
> >>>>>bloated.  if the original poster is really serious about finding a 
> >>>>>job, i would try to find some local linux user groups and start 
> >>>>>posting it there.  there are numerous article out there that dicuss 
> >>>>>*highly skilled layoff employees that is working for nothing just so 
> >>>>>that they don't have any "air gap" in their work experience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>gene
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> 
> 
> 
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