Gene Yoo said:
> David Busby wrote:
>> man resume
>
> this is so wrong :) yes i have a smile on my face also...  i
> think in general, all job market is pretty bad right now.  i
> don't care how many certs you may have, the bottom line is
> the job market is bloated.  if the original poster is really
> serious about finding a job, i would try to find some local
> linux user groups and start posting it there.  there are
> numerous article out there that dicuss *highly skilled
> layoff employees that is working for nothing just so that
> they don't have any "air gap" in their work experience.

I replied to the poster off-list ..but wanted to point out that
certs in the UNIX/linux world are about worthless at the moment.
I've been lookin for a job for 7 months, applied to about 70 positions,
had about 20 interviews, came *really* close(I think) to getting a job
at a local company yesterday but alas no. I have no certs, but have
a great deal of skills & experience. I've been managing networks and
systems since 1996, experience in every commercial version of UNIX
except SCO, about a dozen flavors of linux, and so much more, but
it hasn't gotten me a job yet...real close sometimes though. And with
all my interviews I have only heard the word cert mentioned in a small
fraction of them. I know if I was interviewing people, I wouldn't
care what cert they had either if it was for a system admin/similar
position on linux/unix systems.

But really, I don't know how it is in other parts of the country
but I see more jobs posted that require top secret clearance then
I see jobs asking for RHCE or even Solaris certifications. I may
of seen the RHCE mentioned less then half a dozen times over probably
400 jobs I've looked at. Solaris certs maybe a dozen or 2 dozen
times.

certs are requested more often in the networking area, esp cisco, i
see a lot of jobs that request CCNA/CCNP/CCIE/etc. And the MS
world, lots of requests for MCSE/MCP/etc.

As I mentioned to the original poster off-list, if the job market
in other parts of the country is anything like it is here, your
not gonna get a job with a RHCE and minimal experience, unless you
really lowball your way in at under $25k. Theres too many senior level
people out of work at the moment and companies can take their pick
of the most experienced. But most of the senior folks won't even go
for a job at $25k(I won't, my last position was triple that), so
you have less competition at that price point.

assuming you can find a company that will talk to you at all.

practice practice practice, learn as much as you can as fast as you
can. Every bit helps. It helps more if you have a good home network
to practice on(my network is 14 systems on a 1mbit line).

good luck to all those unemployed out there..!

nate
(unemployed and loving it..not!)

oh..and I'm in washington state. in MS's backyard, so close I can almost
spit on them(their HQ is 3 miles away). moved here in 3/2000 from california.





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