On 21 March 2010 22:44, <[email protected]> wrote: > >>________________________________________ >>From: ext Adrian Yanes [[email protected]] >>Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:17 PM >>To: Alhola Kate (Nokia-FNDC/Helsinki) >>Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions... >> >>Hi Kate. >> >>You are talking about open the source as a present for the people. >> >>It is not like that. If the companies are doing now open source is >>because after a lot a lot of years they understood the advantages of >>it regarding their business (in your own words: business reason). > > As you have seen how much Nokia has invested to Open Source, i think that > management has seen business reason. > >>Why is too expensive for the companies release the software as open >>source? because others are going to copy it? >> >>Come on, Nokia & Intel have enough patents to "protect" their >>innovations. And in the case that these patents don't protect the >>innovations, can you tell how company has the resources to assembly it >>and resell and to cause a "crash" market of Nokia & Intel? > > I think that it is good thing to both of Nokia and Intel as many as possible > copies MeeGo.
I agree. > > I was discussing about 3rd party components like OpenGL-ES drivers. > I don't know their reasons to keep drivers closed, i think that you > should ask that from them. > We asked to Nokia when was Maemo, this is the response: http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages Arguments like "brand" and "differentiation" are present in the official response. So before involve other vendors, would be nice if your company clarify their own components. >>Maybe we need to remember the Ari's words one month ago: >> >>"MeeGo is free. Code will be available for everybody under proper open >>source licenses. No strings attached other than making your >>contributions also free. The development and integration will be open, >>too. Everybody can invest in MeeGo and participate. It is a genuine >>open source project. Free for everybody to participate, contribute, >>and enjoy. Free. No papers to sign. Just show up!" >> >>"The development and integration will be open, too." > > I agree 100% with this > >>Ok. How can we assume an "open" development and integration with >>non-open components? > > I would like see 100% open world but i don't have force to force everyone > to release everything as Open Source. The fact is that some silicon vendors > have only closed GPU drivers. I personally prefer open source drivers > but that decision to open drivers is not one I can decide. Nokia and Intel > are big companies that have lot of power equals money but is it wise > to use it just by buying all silocon IP vendors that have closed drivers to > release drivers as open source ? The fact is that now Intel and Nokia are together. They can obtain these components, even without money. The vendors had the polityc to release the components under non-open source because in the past it was the "rule" (the wrong rule as the history have shown us). Now the things are changing, very very fast. We should take this opportunity. > >>The open source community hopes that the effort from Nokia & Intel >>provides the first and complete open source platform / devices. > > Nokia and Inten can only release their own code, they don't have unlimited > power ( == money ) to release all 3rd sw as open source. > If they don't have unlimited power, either won't have the other vendors ( they can't continue releasing forever closed components ) >>However, after read a lot of threads and news, the dialog is starting >>to be inconsistent ( and the proof is some lines above ). >> >>I believe in this platform, but personally I wish that Nokia & Intel >>don't enter ( again ) in the false argument that "we need to close >>some components to proctect ourselves". > > GPU OpenGL drivers are not closed by Nokia for protecting anything because > Nokia does > not own copyright to them. I am not aware how much Intel have open GPU drivers > for their GPU's. Least Gallium is Open source GPU driver that supports Intel. > >>The history showed that this kind of thinking/acting is a mistake. > > World is not perfect and it can't be changed perfect in one night. Perhaps the world is not perfect but it doesn't mean that we should not have the best intentions to improve it. I know Kate that you have good intentions, but please understand that some things at MeeGo community need be clarify. Regards, Adrian. _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
