On 22 March 2010 09:57, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > ext Adrian Yanes wrote: >> We asked to Nokia when was Maemo, this is the response: >> >> http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages >> >> Arguments like "brand" and "differentiation" are present in the >> official response. >> >> So before involve other vendors, would be nice if your company clarify >> their own components. > > As it is pointed out in the wiki page you are linking, if you want a > Nokia closed component to be open, please see > http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_development/Licensing_change_requests > > This is meego-dev and you are asking about binaries in Maemo based Nokia > products. We had this discussion plenty of times at maemo.org and you > are free to continue it at maemo.org. Please limit your discussion here > to the MeeGo stack and how it plans to handle closed binaries > officially supported.
Quim I know where I am writing. If I am asking in MeeGo-dev is because Ari said that Maemo 6 is a MeeGo "instance". Apologizes if the topic is not in the correct thread, but I am sure if I ask the same at maemo-dev someone redirect me again to MeeGo ( for the argument that Maemo 6 is MeeGo). > > >> The fact is that now Intel and Nokia are together. They can obtain >> these components, even without money. > > Do you mean that without money one can write the best drivers for latest > hardware? I'm not a big fan of closed binaries for hardware adaptation > but I understand that companies involved in this complex and highly > competitive activity want to pay salaries and bring benefits to > shareholders. > After read this phrase I am asking myself if we are speaking about the same because is a complete contradiction with the reality (the linux kernel is a good example). >> Perhaps the world is not perfect but it doesn't mean that we should >> not have the best intentions to improve it. > > Looking at the IT & mobile industries it looks like Intel and Nokia are > actually championing with best intentions when it comes to investments > in open source. I agree totally with this. > > This is only my personal opinion, but I think open source adoption in > the mobile industry is going as fast as it gets evolving without > breaking the business models in this industry. The argument pushed > sometimes by free software enthusiasts (also in this thread) is that big > corps like Nokia or Intel could push the free licenses further thanks to > its predominant position in the market. Even if that would be true, the > execution would remove a bunch of smaller innovative players from the > map (acquired, bought out, pushed out of business). If that would be a > better world for software freedom, I don't know. > What are you talking about? breaking business models? Really? It's the opposite. Thanks to the open source adoption they are creating new models. Nokia broke their business models with Maemo? no, they create new a one ( a very good one). And of course they can push the free licenses, do you remember the phrase: the client has always the reason? Are going to stop the vendors to sell thousands of components to Intel & Nokia because they are requesting open drivers? No. For a simple reasons: their business is not make drivers is sell hardware. In my opinion they are not opening the drivers because the big companies are not requiring as a condition. As Kate said they companies are not opening their drivers not because they are going to loose money. Is because they are afraid for the "possibility" that some one "stole" something in their innovations. But this argument is completely wrong because the things that can be stole are under "protection" for the patents. The N900 is practically an open source product. How many competitors appears that are "copying" the N900 and they are causing pain to the Nokia's market? The OpenGL drivers are one of the big battles at open source community. Now the community have the support of Nokia & Intel, never in the past a partnership similar happened ( related with the open source stuff as MeeGo). For this reason we should take the opportunity and to do the correct pressure. Regards, Adrian. _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
