Hi Kate.

You are talking about open the source as a present for the people.

It is not like that. If the companies are doing now open source is
because after a lot a lot of years they understood the advantages of
it regarding their business (in your own words: business reason).

Why is too expensive for the companies release the software as open
source? because others are going to copy it?

Come on, Nokia & Intel have enough patents to "protect" their
innovations. And in the case that these patents don't protect the
innovations, can you tell how company has the resources to assembly it
and resell and to cause a "crash" market of Nokia & Intel?

Maybe we need to remember the Ari's words one month ago:

"MeeGo is free. Code will be available for everybody under proper open
source licenses. No strings attached other than making your
contributions also free. The development and integration will be open,
too. Everybody can invest in MeeGo and participate. It is a genuine
open source project. Free for everybody to participate, contribute,
and enjoy. Free. No papers to sign. Just show up!"

"The development and integration will be open, too."

Ok. How can we assume an "open" development and integration with
non-open components?

The open source community hopes that the effort from Nokia & Intel
provides the first and complete open source platform / devices.

However, after read a lot of threads and news, the dialog is starting
to be inconsistent ( and the proof is some lines above ).

I believe in this platform, but personally I wish that Nokia & Intel
don't enter ( again ) in the false argument that "we need to close
some components to proctect ourselves".

The history showed that this kind of  thinking/acting is a mistake.

Regards, Adrian.

On 21 March 2010 19:08,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>________________________________________
>>From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>ext Adrian Yanes [[email protected]]
>>Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:01 PM
>>To: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...
>>
>>The fact is more simple: if Nokia and Intel (a big weights in the
>>technology market) are doing a open source project.
>>
>>They have the choice now to deal with the vendors / manufactures and
>>require open source components.
>>
>>This is not fiction, the largest manufacturer of mobile phones and the
>>largest  semiconductor chip maker are together doing a project and we
>>are speaking here about that we need use closed components because
>>some vendors are going to release these components as closed-source?
>>
>>Really? Can't Nokia & Intel negotiate this thing with the vendors?
>
> The world is not so black and white. There is limited number of GPU vendors 
> and limited variation
> of SOC chips with GPU. The vendors have some price tag to release their 
> proprietary property
> as open source
>
> Even Nokia and Intel are big companies, it does not justify to our management 
> to spend
> big amount of money, may be tens or hundred of millions  just for releasing 
> some of our
> component supliers  code as Open Source.
>
> Nokia did it wiith Symbian, bought it and made it as open source and after we 
> bought Trolltech, we
> released Qt as LGPL. In both of these cases there was clear business reason 
> for that.
>
> I would like to see all GPU drivers as OSS but i still can't justify spending 
> big money just for it.
> It is most important to make device and software that gives best value to 
> money to customers.
> Having Open source is one important factor but not only one.
>
> I think that you should rather think that even MeeGo is depending OpenGL 
> drivers, you can yourself
> chose your HW platform. If you find good small powerful low power consumption 
> mobile platform
> with open source OpenGL(ES) drivers, yoy have freedom to use it.
>
>>I can't understand what is here the concept of open source.
>
> Why you don't understand ? We have OSS platform, you are free to make code 
> for it, you are free to distribute it,
> you are not limited proprietary app store, you can modify the code if you 
> like. You can put MeeGo run in your own platform,
> you can use platform with open OpenGL-ES drivers if you have such platform.
>
> You can compare it to desktop Linux, you can use some GPU card with open or 
> oteher closed drivers, it is free choice.
> You can make closed SW dor desktop Linux as you can doo for MeeGo.
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>
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