Christian, At no point did I say people can't use labs. The words you quote below are taken entirely out of context in this mail. They were in response to a very specific issue, not a general state t and certainly not a rule.
Ross Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 22 Jun 2011, at 15:29, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Going quiet is the one thing, going dormant the other. With Github >>> around, we should see if there is really a need for such places like >>> Labs. >> >> Why? In other words, what's driving you on this point? Labs >> admittedly has a fairly narrow range of useful, a small niche. There >> are clearly several folk who see value in that niche. > > Yes. Me too. > >> You don't. > > That wrong, I like Labs. I just want it to change so it is more useful > (at least what I think useful means - others have other opinions) > >> Why is that a problem exactly? > > Please read the related discussion on the mailinglist. > > The original question was, "how to revive labs" to which I responded > to. In my opinion Labs should a little bit. Otherwise things like > github or apache-extras are more useful. Or what exactly are the > reasons why you should go to labs? > >>>> The goal of labs is not to become successful, that you only become when you >>>> build a community around yourself. Instead, the goal of labs is a place to >>>> try stuff out, with the full understanding that you might not be >>>> successful. >>>> It's a place to start something. >>> >>> Yeah, but if you do something related to a ASF project you will need >>> to go to the projects Sandbox. >> >> Unless you're experimenting around a project on which you haven't commit >> karma. > > And this is exactly my problem because it is wrong what you said here. > You cannot go to labs if there is a projects sandbox, even when you > have Karma. It has been explained to me to go to apache-extras > instead. > > See: http://s.apache.org/0Hf > > "Labs is a place for experimentation, not a place for developing software > that is intended to be used." > > With this restriction I only see a few projects who might fit to labs. > > To go into labs, you need to be Apache Committer, have no interest in > doing releases or build a community and experiment on things which are > not intended to use or focused by another project. > > Labs 2 should sound like: be an Apache Committer and have no interest > in community building. > > There was a long discussion around this already. I kindly refer you to > spot the mailinglist, if you haven't done so. > > Cheers > Christian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
