>>> I don't follow why people going elsewhere is a problem. >> >> The problem is more, people are not going into the labs. > > Why is that a problem? We offer an environment for people to use, if it goes > quiet for a while, that's entirely fine. The only action I believe we should > take is perhaps publicise ourselves more to ASF people who might not know we > exist.
Going quiet is the one thing, going dormant the other. With Github around, we should see if there is really a need for such places like Labs. >> But: >> - the entry for a lab is to strict (only experimental features, see >> discussion between Ross and myself) >> - how can a lab become successful with so much rules (no releases)? > > The goal of labs is not to become successful, that you only become when you > build a community around yourself. Instead, the goal of labs is a place to > try stuff out, with the full understanding that you might not be successful. > It's a place to start something. Yeah, but if you do something related to a ASF project you will need to go to the projects Sandbox. So there are only a few things which are meant for labs. And even for those Apache-Extras could be used more easily. For example if you collaborate with non-ASFlers. So Labs it just for doing experimental stuff in collaboration with other ASFlers or alone. Not really an argument for going to labs instead of apache-extras. > If you want to make a release, that's the point when you should no longer be > a lab, and you need to graduate somewhere else, hopefully the incubator. I disagree. Labs should be able to do alpha versions without the pain of a full incubation. Well at least you can do at release on your personal webpage, so I don't consider this a huge negative argument. >>> I see it as entirely fine that labs should go quiet from time to time, >>> and >>> believe the only thing we really should do in this situation perhaps is >>> advertise labs more widely. >> >> We should first discuss if there is still a real need of labs before >> putting more effort in it - my 2 cents > > Do ASF people need a place to try stuff out? I believe they do, and that's > the purpose of labs. I don't believe it. If it were like this, Labs would not be so quiet. People can easily go to github or apache-extras. Cheers Christian > > Regards, > Graham > -- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
