Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 15 Jun 2011, at 13:18, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote: >> "why not give it a try?" - fine, come up with a proposal that addresses >> rather than ignores the original reasoning behind labs current structure. >> That has not been don yet, that's my concern. > > Hasn't that been done already on the discussion thread about this? Eg > releases would follow the usual ASF release requirements and need to > be labeled as a Labs release similar to how Incubation releases are > labeled as incubating and then review/vote as any normal release so > with at least 3 Labs PMC member +1s required. How is that not "routing around the Incubator?" What is the point of the release? To raise interest in the lab? Isn't that community building? Isn't that what the incubator is for? What if it raises interest? You want to give commit access to non-ASF committers, right? How is this situation different from the incubator? Why do we need to route around the incubator like this? Why did the original proposal include rules that specifically prevents this routing around the incubator? How do we manage user expectations of projects that come out of labs? Its OK for the incubator to say "here's an incubator release, this project may not be sustainable but we are working towards it". I'm not sure that saying "here's a labs release we have no intention of making this sustainable via a community" makes any sense at all. If the release isn't saying this then what leaked it different from an incubator project? I'm not saying these questions can't be answered satisfactorily I'm just saying that, at least for me, they are not yet answered. If someone can come up with sensible answers the. I promise I'll back down ;-) Ross > If the labeling requirements need to be spelled out in more detail > then ok lets do that but presently i'm not sure there is much point > until the Labs PMC is more on board. Maybe thats just going to take > more time so more and more people who've worked on Labs get added to > the PMC as its those who seem more in favour of doing this. > > ...ant > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
