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On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Ilan Tal <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would very much like that what you imply would be true.
> I don't know what the "direction of the cable" really means.
> There is a red cable which comes with the board which is a male microUSB
> connected to a female USB.
> That male microUSB is a bid odd in that it plugs into the IOIO but not
> into the phone.
> Something in the physical dimensions of the plug are such that it fits
> only into the IOIO.
>

The red cable has a USB micro A, and as I mentioned, some phones will not
accept it, but rather need a USB micro B even for operating as host. This
is against the USB standard, but very common in practice.


>
> My brother isn't using this cable, but he spliced together 2 male microUSB
> cables, so there is no preferred direction.
>

This is a rather bad idea. Specifically, this cable configuration doesn't
let either side know it is supposed to be a host. On the IOIO, you can work
around this problem by moving the switch to the "H" position (force host),
but you'll never be able to get the phone into host mode this way to test
what might be a solution to your problem.


> Perhaps you are talking about that cable I originally asked you about
> which splits 1 male into 2 female: one USB and one microUSB?
>
I suspect this too has a physical splicing of the wires so again there is
> no intrinsic direction?
>

If you buy what's called an "OTG cable" such as this
<https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Adapter-Female-Samsung-Android/dp/B00N9S9Z0G/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1508608674&sr=8-5&keywords=usb+otg+cable>
+
a standard USB A-to-micro-B cable and plug them together you'd get the
cable that you need, which can be used in either direction.


>
> My brother says that he can tell if the board is "working" because he gets
> a message asking something about the IOIO, permission of some sort.
> With the new phones (all of them), he sees no messages, no sign of life.
> If you can explain exactly what to test, I can have him give it a try.
>

First thing I would test is have the phone be the host, by using the cable
I described and flipping the direction. Otherwise, try following up with
the people on the bug, which claim they have a solution, they might be able
to send you a modified firmware image file that you can use.


>
> On my side, I am developing the software so I use Android Studio and the
> ioioBridge, where the IOIO is connected to the computer.
> Again, my phone is old (less than 2 years) and works just fine. It passes
> the USB OTG checker program as well.
>
> Thanks for all your help,
> Ilan
>
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