Can you please explain the sentence "The play store USB OTG says the the OTG isn't compatible"?
On Oct 19, 2017 21:54, "Ilan Tal" <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to remove all doubt I asked my brother to try the auto mode. With the > old phones, both of his boards work fine. With the new phones, the boards > don't exist. > When he plugs in the IOIO into the phone he gets a message indicating that > the phone knows the IOIO is there. With the new phone, the phone will > recognize charging but no IOIO. > The play store USB OTG says the the OTG isn't compatible, so we can't > ignore that. > I was hoping that the splitter cable's claims to somehow magically add > OTG, would work, but I see no magic. > > On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 9:48:40 PM UTC+3, Ytai wrote: >> >> I would recommend: >> >> 1. Using the precompiled HelloIOIO for doing these tests (just to >> rule out the possibility that you're building something wrong). >> 2. Trying either the IOIO as host or as device (which has to do with >> with side of the cable goes into the IOIO and which one to the Android). >> Make sure the switch on the IOIO is in the "A" (auto) mode. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Ilan Tal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I finally managed to understand your question. No, the phone is >>> definitely controlling the IOIO and the IOIO is not the host. >>> I used your looper to control the IOIO - staying as close as i could to >>> your examples (Hello IOIO etc.) >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 7:35:17 AM UTC+3, Ytai wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you might be somewhat misusing the term OTG. USB OTG has to do >>>> with the ability of a device to switch between being a host on the USB bus >>>> to bring a device, based on which side of the cable it is connected to. >>>> Since all phones used to be only devices, manufacturers started using the >>>> term OTG to mean that their device can also be a host. >>>> The IOIO worked with Android long before any phones had host mode, so >>>> the lack of OTG support in itself is not a problem. Since it sounds like >>>> from your description that you're using the IOIO as a host, it is more >>>> likely that what you're seeing is a result of the bug I linked to rather >>>> than lack of support. >>>> Makes sense? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2017 21:28, "Ilan Tal" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> With the new phones your board simply doesn't exist under OTG. Nothing >>>> we could do would give signs of life. >>>> That is the contribution of the UTB OTG checker programs - they have no >>>> connection to your board. >>>> All of these programs claim that OTG is dead, so big surprise that the >>>> phone can't see your board under OTG. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 7:21:59 AM UTC+3, Ytai wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is this the case for both directions? I.e. the IOIO as either host or >>>>> device? >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 16, 2017 21:11, "Ilan Tal" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Yitai, >>>>>> Unfortunately we have to accept the fact that phones less than about >>>>>> 1 year old no longer support OTG. >>>>>> Blue tooth is the only solution. >>>>>> The cable I asked about does nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are several programs to check USB OTG on the phone itself. >>>>>> These are useful as an independent check, independent from your board. >>>>>> Any of them will work on "old" phones but will fail on new phones, >>>>>> indicating that the phone does not support OTG. >>>>>> The cable is simply a red herring and contributes nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Too bad that the OTG technology came and went within 5 years, but >>>>>> this seems to be the case. >>>>>> So we will switch our system from OTG to blue tooth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Ilan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 5:04:44 PM UTC+3, Ilan Tal wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to ask about the IOIO OTG on the latest phones. >>>>>>> To my amazement many of the latest phones no longer seem to support >>>>>>> OTG. >>>>>>> (What I see is that I can't make any connection with Hello IOIO.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a cable you can buy >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009YPYORM?tag=won00-20 >>>>>>> that seems to solve the problem, but I'd like some feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ideally, this might work: plug the micro usb into the phone and then >>>>>>> make a connection between one of the 2 male connectors to the IOIO. >>>>>>> I don't know who has experience with this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If that fails perhaps another possibility is to plug the micro usb >>>>>>> into the IOIO and use a male connector to blue tooth. >>>>>>> This is using the cable as a simple pass through, but I might be >>>>>>> able to use the other connector to supply 5 volts to the IOIO? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Ilan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ioio-users" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/ioio-users. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ioio-users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/ioio-users. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ioio-users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/ioio-users. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ioio-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/ioio-users. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ioio-users" group. 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