I finally managed to understand your question. No, the phone is definitely 
controlling the IOIO and the IOIO is not the host.
I used your looper to control the IOIO - staying as close as i could to 
your examples (Hello IOIO etc.)

On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 7:35:17 AM UTC+3, Ytai wrote:
>
> I think you might be somewhat misusing the term OTG. USB OTG has to do 
> with the ability of a device to switch between being a host on the USB bus 
> to bring a device, based on which side of the cable it is connected to. 
> Since all phones used to be only devices, manufacturers started using the 
> term OTG to mean that their device can also be a host.
> The IOIO worked with Android long before any phones had host mode, so the 
> lack of OTG support in itself is not a problem. Since it sounds like from 
> your description that you're using the IOIO as a host, it is more likely 
> that what you're seeing is a result of the bug I linked to rather than lack 
> of support.
> Makes sense?
>
> On Oct 16, 2017 21:28, "Ilan Tal" <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> With the new phones your board simply doesn't exist under OTG. Nothing we 
> could do would give signs of life.
> That is the contribution of the UTB OTG checker programs - they have no 
> connection to your board.
> All of these programs claim that OTG is dead, so big surprise that the 
> phone can't see your board under OTG.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 7:21:59 AM UTC+3, Ytai wrote:
>
>> Is this the case for both directions? I.e. the IOIO as either host or 
>> device?
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2017 21:11, "Ilan Tal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yitai,
>>> Unfortunately we have to accept the fact that phones less than about 1 
>>> year old no longer support OTG.
>>> Blue tooth is the only solution.
>>> The cable I asked about does nothing.
>>>
>>> There are several programs to check USB OTG on the phone itself. These 
>>> are useful as an independent check, independent from your board.
>>> Any of them will work on "old" phones but will fail on new phones, 
>>> indicating that the phone does not support OTG.
>>> The cable is simply a red herring and contributes nothing.
>>>
>>> Too bad that the OTG technology came and went within 5 years, but this 
>>> seems to be the case.
>>> So we will switch our system from OTG to blue tooth.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ilan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 5:04:44 PM UTC+3, Ilan Tal wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to ask about the IOIO OTG on the latest phones.
>>>> To my amazement many of the latest phones no longer seem to support OTG.
>>>> (What I see is that I can't make any connection with Hello IOIO.)
>>>>
>>>> There is a cable you can buy
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009YPYORM?tag=won00-20
>>>> that seems to solve the problem, but I'd like some feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, this might work: plug the micro usb into the phone and then 
>>>> make a connection between one of the 2 male connectors to the IOIO.
>>>> I don't know who has experience with this.
>>>>
>>>> If that fails perhaps another possibility is to plug the micro usb into 
>>>> the IOIO and use a male connector to blue tooth.
>>>> This is using the cable as a simple pass through, but I might be able 
>>>> to use the other connector to supply 5 volts to the IOIO?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ilan
>>>>
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