I don’t think it’s a great idea. It curtails an important aspect of intellectual property called "moral rights" — the right to be recognized for things one has created.
I get why ASF wants to do this, given that companies are inclined to make expansive claims and imply that they control a project. But it seems heavy-handed, especially when it comes to individuals speaking about their own work. As a software engineer, moral rights are a foundation for my reputation and a career. If I cannot exercise those moral rights, the ASF has taken away from me one of the few ways that I am rewarded for open source work. I’m not a lawyer, but I think ASF will have trouble enforcing this rule. Of course it can silence its own projects — but that would mean the projects cannot talk freely about their own origins and history, which seems to me a healthy thing for a project to do. It may have some control over companies that wish to use ASF trademarks. But I don’t see how it can effectively control the speech of individuals, even individuals who are ASF contributors or members. Julian (original developer of Apache Calcite) > On Mar 25, 2025, at 2:01 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > That sounds reasonable to me to add in the maturity model. > > Regards > JB > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 6:56 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> There’s a discussion on the board list about using "creator of Apache Foo”. >> [1] Also, see the current policy on it. [2] (i.e “original creator” can be >> used, not “creator” but even that is discouraged.) >> >> We could possibly add an extra item to the maturity model [3] along the >> lines of “TB50. The project and third parties do not refer to anyone as “the >> creator/founder of Apache Foo”. with a link to the policy. What do people >> think? >> >> Kind Regards, >> Justin >> >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/2vt9cb20nsvqqtt22b9yg6bp2ojxlvoz >> 2. https://apache.org/foundation/faq.html#marketing >> 3. https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
