Greg,

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 09:36:25AM -0400, Gregory Casamento wrote:
> The website has a very retro aesthetic.  While this may appeal to long time
> users, what it is going to FAIL to do is to attract new developers.

One comment: it has _already_ failed to accomplish this.


> We should redesign it to have a more modern look... but aside from that there
> are several issues.
> 
> 1. Outdated Visual Aesthetic
> 2. No Mobile Optimization
> 3. Header & Navigation
> 
> Content issues:
> 4. Unclear Value Proposition
> 5. Modern Use Cases Missing
> 6. Developer Engagement Is Weak

I agree with these major points, though how to resolve these issues may
be best left to the creativity of humans. :)


> No clear download  section where the user doesn't have to dig.

Just brought this up in the "Website Structure" thread. Maybe a
"Downloads" section on the top makes more sense.


> GNUstep needs the binding with swift to be useful to developers.

This is a huge undertaking, and I think outside of the scope of this
discussion. Maybe that could be part of a larger thread on the next
major technical steps for the project.


>     >     In the case we think subdomains are of use, I would rather gather a
>     >     documentation site. E.g. docs.gnustep.org with different kind of
>     manuals
>     >     as well as reference documentation.
>     >
>     >
>     > docs/deveveloper/dev whatever.  Same thing.
> 
>     See my reply to Riccardo. I think they are slightly different, and we
>     could ultimately use both to accomplish the goal of attracting and
>     educating new developers.
> 
>     Part of the impasse here may be that no one but Ethan is really
>     contributing to the developer.gnustep.org site. Ethan opened a thread
>     not too long ago about this, and received zero responses.
> 
> 
> We also need a better theme for the generated documentation.  I would happily
> contribute to the developer site, but I don't know sphinx.  My way of
> contributing is documenting the source. :)

Before we can touch that, we must work on the content. Please see the
"Wiki Updates" thread.

-- 
Luke Lollard


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