On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:27 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago.macie...@intel.com> wrote:
> > Well, I'm not as sure as you, but I am hopeful. > > Then trust me. I know a lot of people in those two companies, I am from > the > same background as most of them (KDE community) and I have worked for > Trolltech, whose values and ethic remain in TQtC. > > So trust me when I say they, like my colleagues at Intel right now, are > expected to behave themselves according to rules very similar, if not > identical, to those set forth in the CC and KDE CoC. > Okay, I have no reason to doubt it. I only meant I have no personal experience to base my conviction on, unlike you. And here's the cinch: would *you*, Konstantin, feel qualified to contact > their > HR? Do you even know whom to contact? Probably not. Granted I'm arrogant enough to send a hot mail to some person at the company, but I would hardly expect a response out of such a thing. This is where the CoC committee can come > in, because they have the community standing to contact an HR > representative > or the person's manager to see if they can also be of help. Maybe those > two > are aware of this person going through a rough patch in their lives and > could > advise in other ways to solve the situation. > > Note I didn't say "contact to get them fired", but "to see if they can be > of > help". We don't want to lose the contributor, we want to see the situation > resolved in such a way that we keep both parties. > I grant you that one. I still believe the enforcement and internal details should be separate from the main text, but that's a minor detail at this point. Note: I continue to think that KDE's CoC's text is written better and more clearly. On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:44 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago.macie...@intel.com> wrote: > On Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:18:02 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote: > > > The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination. > > > That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means > > > > It is not clear. Intruder could ask to ban some person pretending it's > > discrimination problem. > > And I'm pretty sure the KDE Community WG can easily compile a list of > times > that they were maliciously asked to look into situations and how much time > it > took them to give it the attention it was due. > That'd be interesting to see, even if only out of curiosity.
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